Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures

[papa smurf]

Let it go,this story is dead buried and consigned to history.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Let it go,this story is dead buried and consigned to history.

We aren't in China yet. I'm sure for other subjects you weren't interested in you'd simply be invited to peruse other threads that may be of more interest you.

However this one has you hooked to defend Dom at all costs.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Let it go,this story is dead buried and consigned to history.

You hope of course.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

We aren't in China yet. I'm sure for other subjects you weren't interested in you'd simply be invited to peruse other threads that may be of more interest you.

However this one has you hooked to defend Dom at all costs.

I'm not defending anyone. i'm just pointing out the discussion has run it's course,but if you feel the need to drag it out for a few more years feel free to waste your time as you see fit.

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Originally Posted by denphone

You hope of course.

It's just boring now den there's no corps for the circling vultures to devour.

[Sephiroth]

At the PM's briefing today, the press are behaving really badly.

Kuenssberg absolutely blew her opportunity - I was ashamed of her politically motivated question about Cummings. Boris closed that down because he considers the matter closed.

Others then sought to ask generically worded Cummings questions that the PM also closed down - such as "would the CMO/CMA recommend that someone should drive a car to test their eyes?".

They've shot their bolt because the Guvmin has stopped supplementary questions and you could see how miffed Kuenssberg was.

And to those on this thread who have said "Cummings broke the rules, end of" - or similar - it's no "end of" and you're being entirely political.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I'm not defending anyone. i'm just pointing out the discussion has run it's course,but if you feel the need to drag it out for a few more years feel free to waste your time as you see fit.

Defending someone/censoring criticism I care not for the distinction. It's an easy subject to avoid should it bore you that much.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

Our super elite better than the rest of the world scientists denied an opinion on Cummings 'reasonableness'.

Er - were not prepared to get involved in political matters.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

At the PM's briefing today, the press are behaving really badly.

Kuenssberg absolutely blew her opportunity - I was ashamed of her politically motivated question about Cummings. Boris closed that down because he considers the matter closed.

Others then sought to ask generically worded Cummings questions that the PM also closed down - such as "would the CMO/CMA recommend that someone should drive a car to test their eyes?".

They've shot their bolt because the Guvmin has stopped supplementary questions and you could see how miffed Kuenssberg was.

And to those on this thread who have said "Cummings broke the rules, end of" - or similar - it's no "end of" and you're being entirely political.

Seph, politics is political. Any law drafted by politicians around the word "reasonable" by its nature leaves interpretation open to the masses. That's literally how judgements would be made around any law that has the word in it. How would your bog standard average person interpret events.

The fact a majority don't consider his activity reasonable, including the police, demonstrates that his behaviour has been unreasonable. His lack of contrition is fuel to the fire.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Er - were not prepared to get involved in political matters.

Ah Civil Servants. There to do the Government's bidding.

Hopefully we remember that when it comes to blaming the politicians or the scientists when we have the inevitable Coronavirus inquiry as to how we have the most deaths per capita in the world despite substantial warning.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Er - were not prepared to get involved in political matters.

it’s not just a political matter on Cummings but it is also a scientific and medical matter too.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

it’s not just a political matter on Cummings but it is also a scientific and medical matter too.

The irony being they have now politicised themselves.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

The irony being they have now politicised themselves.

Whitty and Valance have either been gagged or have told No 10 that they will not publicly back the Prime Minister's defence of Cummings.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by denphone

If there is nothing to it then why has the PM just stopped Whitty and Valance giving their comments on Cummings.

Because no one wants to hear them, we’re all bored of it

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Originally Posted by denphone

it’s not just a political matter on Cummings but it is also a scientific and medical matter too.

Nope, it is now purely political.

And The legal angle is now closed. It’s a dead donkey

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It’s great to see the media silently freaking out that they have lost the agenda.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Because no one wants to hear them, we’re all bored of it

Nope, it is now purely political.

And The legal angle is now closed. It’s a dead donkey

If you are bored leaping to his defence at every turn then you aren't obliged to.

Of course it is now political - he has a credibility crisis that is haemorrhaging onto the Government now. Leave voters, remainers, Labour voters, Lib Dem voters.

The only group that doesn't think he should resign is Conservative voters, and even 46% of those think he should.

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I'm furloughed until July 1st ATM, I can't be bothered with booze

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Get yourself an emergency teatotal test this could be serious
.

TBH I'm not a drinker.


Yes I'l have it for birthdays etc, I'll say on Friday I'll have a drink tonight, then on Monday realise I've not had one.

But tonight is our family Skype Quiz night, I will have a drink with that.

Originally Posted by denphone

it’s not just a political matter on Cummings but it is also a scientific and medical matter too.

No it is not, far from it!

Civil servants is a neutral institution, therefore it has no right to be politically dragged in to stupid rows about "minor" issues which is exactly what this is has been since the non-story broke last Friday.