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			25-05-2020, 12:37
			
			
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				Which examples are you saying he did nothing wrong and quote the relevant sections of the legislation. If he drove a distance where does the regulation describe that as “reasonable”? 
			
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 You may have missed the post where I explained that.
 
The last two allegations that have been made are currently under investigation.  
 
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 And as we all know, QCs can disagree amongst themselves.
 
Regulation 6 (2)b seems clear enough to me, and it is also worth pointing out that the clear message was to stay at home 'where possible'. If DC's view was that his child would potentially not have support if he and his wife became very ill with the virus, it made perfect sense to lock down in Durham, where his son could be supported.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-05-2020, 12:40
			
			
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 Thanks for posting this, it seems pretty clear.
 
Given the choice of choosing legal advice from anonymous posters or a QC, I hope most forum readers would choose the QC.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-05-2020, 12:41
			
			
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				I like the sound of Barnard Castle, sounds nice with the bluebells....    Think I might take a trip up there. Lockdown's off apparently.  
			
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 Sounds good, any chance of a lift?  We could share the petrol.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-05-2020, 12:41
			
			
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			"One rule for us, another rule for them" seems to also apply to the baying press.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-05-2020, 12:44
			
			
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			Although it is entertaining reading the creative attempts from the Conservative supporting members to wish this away, I think Cummings is damaged goods now and by so blatantly lying to the country, Johnson's honeymoon period is officially over. 
The lockdown, or rather the rules that are imposed to implement it, will now be ignored or "liberally interpreted" by a growing number of people. Johnson has given them carte blanche to do so.
 
Here is a letter a recently bereaved individual  wrote to his MP in response to yesterday's press briefing: 
  
His feelings and distress will resonate with a lot of people. The Tories have miscalculated badly on this one ..
 
If the reports of Cummings making day trips while in Durham are verified, and I think they will be, he is toast anyway ..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			25-05-2020, 12:46
			
			
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				You may have missed the post where I explained that. 
 
The last two allegations that have been made are currently under investigation. 
 
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And as we all know, QCs can disagree amongst themselves. 
 
Regulation 6 (2)b seems clear enough to me, and it is also worth pointing out that the clear message was to stay at home 'where possible'. If DC's view was that his child would potentially not have support if he and his wife became very ill with the virus, it made perfect sense to lock down in Durham, where his son could be supported. 
			
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 Where was the message “where possible?”. It said if you had symptoms you stay at your main resident - not second homes or alternate accommodation.
 
I’d absolutely love a Cabinet Minister to get on telly and push these lines. They would increasingly look to be acting in bad faith, at a time they need public trust.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-05-2020, 13:01
			
			
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				Regulation 6 (2)b seems clear enough to me, and it is also worth pointing out that the clear message was to stay at home 'where possible'. If DC's view was that his child would potentially not have support if he and his wife became very ill with the virus, it made perfect sense to lock down in Durham, where his son could be supported. 
			
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 That applies to those without symptoms, Old Boy. The family had symptoms so should have locked down, no ifs or buts.  
 
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				Sounds good, any chance of a lift?  We could share the petrol. 
			
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 Look out for the blue plaque.   
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			25-05-2020, 13:12
			
			
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				Any advance on 8 anybody ?    
			
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 We're up to 18 Tory Mps now calling for Dom's head...
 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...d-lead-deaths/. Proud to say one of them is my MP, only decent thing he's done !
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-05-2020, 13:14
			
			
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 Oops no, make that 19, increasing by the minute !   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-05-2020, 13:17
			
			
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			I thought he was suppose to be "toast" anyway way before all this began, the vilifying of him and his family, hounding outside him home is a an absolute disgrace and I don't give a toss which side of the fence people sit on, it should not be happening, period, you got dick head journalists ignoring social distancing outside of his home too, bunch of pathetic hypocrites, asking him why he "apparently" broke lockdown rules when he did not, but they are clearly doing so!!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Oops no, make that 19, increasing by the minute !    
			
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 It's a shame really. Such a talent lost when if they'd been open and transparent, with an apology the chances are the Daily Mail wouldn't be frothing at the mouth and MPs would be annoyed but kept on board.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-05-2020, 13:27
			
			
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				It's a shame really. Such a talent lost when if they'd been open and transparent, with an apology the chances are the Daily Mail wouldn't be frothing at the mouth and MPs would be annoyed but kept on board. 
			
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 Yes it is a shame really people like you, have got this wrong, when no rules were broken. The safeguarding of the child came first and was the necessity. The second trip being suggested is conjecture no doubt by activists.  "I saw a man that looked like Cummings." 
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			25-05-2020, 13:27
			
			
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				It's a shame really. Such a talent lost when if they'd been open and transparent, with an apology the chances are the Daily Mail wouldn't be frothing at the mouth and MPs would be annoyed but kept on board. 
			
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 He hasn't gone anywhere the talent is still in da house.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			25-05-2020, 13:30
			
			
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				Oops no, make that 19, increasing by the minute !    
			
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 It's now 20 Tory MPs. At this rate it'll be a full house by tea time.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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