Coronavirus (OLD)

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So, does that mean it's OK if my father in law were to visit our garden, If he doesn't use the house and he maintains 2m distancing from my wife and I?

To be honest, i'm struggling to see the difference between the two scenarios.

Also, in theory, i could get on my motorbike, meet a mate at let's say a fuel station and then ride up to Bamburgh on the coast sit on the beach all day whilst maintaining social distancing.

It's very flimsy

I think the message should have been the Social Distancing. As long as you can keep a safe distance from everybody you can pretty much carry on as normal, or as normal can be.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I think the message should have been the Social Distancing. As long as you can keep a safe distance from everybody you can pretty much carry on as normal, or as normal can be.

Now the above is much clearer and makes more sense.

I wonder if last nights message was phrased the way it was, was in part to try and stop an onslaught of families getting together.

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Clear as mud


People in England can "meet up with other people" outside their household as long as they are outside and stay 2m apart, the government has confirmed.

Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said people should "use some common sense" and cannot visit others at their home.

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You just have to be alert.

As the saying goes "Be alert, this country need Lerts"

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So, does that mean it's OK if my father in law were to visit our garden, If he doesn't use the house and he maintains 2m distancing from my wife and I?

To be honest, i'm struggling to see the difference between the two scenarios.

Also, in theory, i could get on my motorbike, meet a mate at let's say a fuel station and then ride up to Bamburgh on the coast sit on the beach all day whilst maintaining social distancing.

It's very flimsy

You can't do that, but you can drive to a park/beach etc and stay 2 metres a part is allowed

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

As the saying goes "Be alert, this country need Lerts"

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You can't do that, but you can drive to a park/beach etc and stay 2 metres a part is allowed

So, my father could drive to a beach, my wife and i can can drive to a beach we can stay 2m apart and thats OK. BUT my father can't come to my house and go into my garden (by means of a side gate and not actually enter the house) and sit on our garden furniture 2m apart?

Where's the difference ?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So, my father could drive to a beach, my wife and i can can drive to a beach we can stay 2m apart and thats OK. BUT my father can't come to my house and go into my garden (by means of a side gate and not actually enter the house) and sit on our garden furniture 2m apart?

Where's the difference ?

Because all the morons would just see "can visit another house" and see that as can go in. If it had been specified as "can see in garden if 2m apart", then there would be the inevitable constant bellyaching about those without gardens.

A New York City lawyer known as 'patient zero' has opened up about contracting the coronavirus earlier this year.
...
His immediate family, including his wife, 20-year-old son and 14-year-old daughter all tested positive.
The neighbor who drove him to the hospital also contracted the disease.
It then emerged that his friend's family-of-five, including three children, tested positive.
Medical staff at the hospital, members of his law firm and attendees at the Temple Young Israel of New Rochelle synagogue, of which Garbuz is a member, also became confirmed as cases.

All from just one person, and then of course those others would have transmitted to yet more people, and so on.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Because all the morons would just see "can visit another house" and see that as can go in. If it had been specified as "can see in garden if 2m apart", then there would be the inevitable constant bellyaching about those without gardens.

All from just one person, and then of course those others would have transmitted to yet more people, and so on.

The morons are visiting regardless of guidance, so I'm not sure if your first statement holds true. What will happen now is that people will complain that they don't have cars etc to meet people at beaches/parks etc.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

You can't do that

Why not, as long as you meet outdoors at the fuel station?

[Taf]

Figures plucked out of thin air:

1 cough or sneeze at 2 metres could give you the dangerous viral load in seconds.

Talking loudly at 2 metres could give you the dangerous viral load in a few minutes.

Normal breathing at 2 metres could give you the dangerous viral load in an hour.

So stay away from people who are coughing and sneezing. Don't stay close to people in loud environments where shouting is necessary to communicate. Don't linger with people for extended periods, even if they show no symptoms.

And remember that the viral load doesn't have to come from one person. 100% from one person or 10% each from 10 people will do it.

[jonbxx]

Just had an email from our office saying 'yes we watched it last night' and 'no, carry on working from home'. There's no plans to open up our offices in the near future...

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

The morons are visiting regardless of guidance, so I'm not sure if your first statement holds true. What will happen now is that people will complain that they don't have cars etc to meet people at beaches/parks etc.

But the number of morons that are currently disregarding the restrictions is relatively small. That group is just going to get bigger and bigger.



The message should be "if you're not sure, just don't do it", not the message propagated by the media of "if you're not sure, do it anyway".

Local children’s nursery (the owner has around 10 sites) sent this out.

Good evening,

Following the PM's announcements tonight that some people who cannot work from home will be allowed to return to work from next week, I just wanted to let all parents know that we will be continuing to restrict childcare offered to our key worker list provided by Government until we are asked to amend it.

We are hoping there will be further clarification from the Local Authorities or Government in the next couple of days, which is what has happened in the past when significant announcements have been made.

Please bear with us and be patient. As soon as we can offer childcare to all we will do so. But we cannot change policy at this stage until we are given more guidance.

We are very much looking forward to welcoming all our children and families back into nursery at the earliest we possibly can.

Then followed up with this

The Dfe have just made this announcement -

As confirmed by the Prime Minister this evening, we are asking education and childcare settings to prepare to open for more children from 1 June.

We will publish further guidance setting out more information for early years, schools and colleges tomorrow.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by nomadking

But the number of morons that are currently disregarding the restrictions is relatively small. That group is just going to get bigger and bigger.



The message should be "if you're not sure, just don't do it", not the message propagated by the media of "if you're not sure, do it anyway".

Speculation and conjecture on your first statement

On your 2nd I haven't seen the media propagating that message so can't comment

[tweetiepooh]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Takes me back to the Forces in the 70s - one of the jokes that went around at that time.

That goes backs to Goon Shows.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Local children’s nursery (the owner has around 10 sites) sent this out.



Then followed up with this

How on earth do you socially distance toddlers/pre school ?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Speculation and conjecture on your first statement

On your 2nd I haven't seen the media propagating that message so can't comment

Hardly speculation and conjecture when there is more than enough actual examples.


Anybody who is going around saying "if X is allowed, why not Y", is promoting the message that Y is OK. No shortage of people doing that.