Coronavirus (OLD)

[denphone]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

It's got nothing to do with being a police state, it's about minimising the spread of the virus.

If people want to chat to friends then use whatsapp or facetime etc.

if people are going out to shop for essentials thats what they're there to do. not stand around chatting to mates (even if it is at the 2m distance)

Unfortunately, life is not meant to be normal right now.

Our family uses Skype or the Facebook video messenger as we are going to use it again later today to speak to our parents.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by denphone

They have just tested all the staff at the Great Ormond Street Hospital and 40% were found to have Coronavirus and l would imagine when the finally get around to test all the other NHS staff whenever that is the results might well be the same..

When and if this breaks, the CMO & Boris et all are going to have some serious questions to answer.

1) Why propose the herd immunity theory when it was clearly out of step with the rest of the worlds attempts to mitigiate?
2) Why the delay in understanding that mass testing is the key to get us out of this, again out of step with China, South Korea & Singapore ?
3) Why are people still not being checked on flight arrivals?

Whilst i can appreciated these are difficult times it would appear that the government has chosen to be reactive rather than proactive. Because of this, a degree of the people who have died could possibly have been saved.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Our family uses Skype or the Facebook video messenger as we are going to use it again later today to speak to our parents.

Yup, our family do that too. quite suitable for communications.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Maggy

So me out shopping for essentials happening to see friends also out shopping for essentials and greeting each other even when socially distancing is a criminal offence now?

I don't believe so. What makes you think otherwise?

If there are only the two of you, you don't even need to socially distance to stay within the law AIUI.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

When and if this breaks, the CMO & Boris et all are going to have some serious questions to answer.

1) Why propose the herd immunity theory when it was clearly out of step with the rest of the worlds attempts to mitigiate?
2) Why the delay in understanding that mass testing is the key to get us out of this, again out of step with China, South Korea & Singapore ?
3) Why are people still not being checked on flight arrivals?

Whilst i can appreciated these are difficult times it would appear that the government has chosen to be reactive rather than proactive. Because of this, a degree of the people who have died could possibly have been saved.

These are some of the questions they will have to answer once this is all over as the most important thing currently is to get over this whenever we eventually reach that stage.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by denphone

These are some of the questions they will have to answer once this is all over as the most important thing currently is to get over this whenever we eventually reach that stage.

Quite, hence my initial 'When and if this breaks'

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

I don't believe so. What makes you think otherwise?

If there are only the two of you, you don't even need to socially distance to stay within the law AIUI.

If you're not from the same physical household. Yes, you do !!!!

[Hom3r]

Can we please also when in a supermarket, not stand over staff stacking shelves when asking for stuff.

My niece works part time in Asda, some people do stand away from them, but others do stand too close.

[peanut]

So now they are concerned about those that attended the Cheltenham Festival. Sorry but they've only got their own stupidity to blame.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

If you're not from the same physical household. Yes, you do !!!!

"During the emergency period, no person may participate in a gathering in a public place of more than two people except..."

Is there a law that contradicts this?

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

"During the emergency period, no person may participate in a gathering in a public place of more than two people except..."

Is there a law that contradicts this?

you still need maintain social distancing within that gathering.....

Originally Posted by nomadking

Anybody can have an explanation, it is another thing as to whether it stands up to proper scrutiny, or in the Kinnock case, any scrutiny at all. Without the presence of the chairs, their story might have been plausible. Their story went that they only remained long enough to sing "happy birthday", which apparently only takes 20 seconds. Either the chairs came from within the house, or they brought them with them.
LinkTravelled all the way from Wales to London. Everybody else is expected to make do with online interactions.

Why on Earth are you still whinging about nothing?

For goodness sake the Kinnocks did nothing wrong - they stayed within the law, not that any law defines how long someone stays when delivering items to a vulnerable age group. You need to stop going on about a non-issue, non-law breaking incident.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

you still need maintain social distancing within that gathering.....

Under what law? Not The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020, as far as I can see.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Under what law? Not The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020, as far as I can see.

Person 1 from family A goes out and meets Person 2 from family B at the shops and does not maintain social distancing.

Person 1 is carrying the virus however is asymptomatic.

Due to not social distancing, the virus has increased risk of transmission via shedding.

Person 2 goes back to their family unit and potentially transmits to another person in their family (lets call them person 2a)

Person 2a is asymptomatic goes out and repeats the process inc not social distancing.

By maintaining social distancing regardless you minimise the risk of chains of transmission.


It's not exactly rocket science. Or perhaps you would like a law to assist you with common sense?

Calm down, calm down, everyone - let's discuss, not argue, please.

[denphone]

The latest figures are up for discussion.

UPDATE on coronavirus (#COVID19) testing in the UK:

As of 9am 2 April, a total of 163,194 people have been tested of which 33,718 tested positive.

As of 5pm on 1 April, of those hospitalised in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus, 2,921 have sadly died.

https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status...97879311814656

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...18376178667524

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

The latest figures are up for discussion.



https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status...97879311814656

Can I go first? Nobody said Coronavirus killed them.

Also, that’s just hospital deaths - not care home or at home deaths.