24-03-2020, 22:33
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Re: Coronavirus
Stop fu*king bickering. Last warning.
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24-03-2020, 22:54
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#1247
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Re: Coronavirus
Beijing’s roads and restaurants grow crowded, as scientists warn second coronavirus wave is ‘inevitable’..
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...ientists-warn/
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24-03-2020, 23:11
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#1248
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by pip08456
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Screening and quarantining international arrivals is a good start seeing as Europe is now the epicentre of the virus.
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24-03-2020, 23:39
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
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Things are about to get really bad there and the U.S in general. They've been so poor at reacting to this.
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24-03-2020, 23:42
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
the chances of getting coronavirus over an infinite period of time is infinitely higher.
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I’m not a mathematician, but I’d love to see the output of that equation but I think you’re right.
The probability of contracting CV over infinity, would be infinity, I don’t like those odds.
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25-03-2020, 00:08
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I’m not a mathematician, but I’d love to see the output of that equation but I think you’re right.
The probability of contracting CV over infinity, would be infinity, I don’t like those odds.
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Well, unless the underlying health issues get you first.
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Things are about to get really bad there and the U.S in general. They've been so poor at reacting to this.
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On the plus side we will get to find out if herd immunity works and the human cost of achieving it.
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25-03-2020, 00:12
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Re: Coronavirus
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On the plus side we will get to find out if herd immunity works and the human cost of achieving it.
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There is no question it works, the only question is what will/would the cost be.
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25-03-2020, 00:20
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
Well, unless the underlying health issues get you first.
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On the plus side we will get to find out if herd immunity works and the human cost of achieving it.
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Hopefully they'll develop a vaccine first.
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25-03-2020, 00:54
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by pip08456
Hopefully they'll develop a vaccine first.
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Probably 9-18 months for a vaccine
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25-03-2020, 08:53
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
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The RNA, the genetic material of the virus that causes COVID-19, “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess but before disinfection procedures had been conducted,” the researchers wrote, adding that the finding doesn’t necessarily mean the virus spread by surface
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Shows cleaning is very important..
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25-03-2020, 09:01
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
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Another Red Herring, do you read the story before you post.
at the very bottom of the article is this
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Correction: This story was updated to reflect that SARS-CoV-2 RNA, not live virus, was identified on surfaces in cruise ship cabins up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess.
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25-03-2020, 09:07
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
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No, it doesn’t - at the bottom of the article it states
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Correction: This story was updated to reflect that SARS-CoV-2 RNA, not live virus, was identified on surfaces in cruise ship cabins up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess.
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Detection of viral RNA does not necessarily indicate the presence of infectious virus.
To me, the important bit was in the source report
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e3_w
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Among 3,711 Diamond Princess passengers and crew, 712 (19.2%) had positive test results for SARS-CoV-2 (Figure 1). Of these, 331 (46.5%) were asymptomatic at the time of testing. Among 381 symptomatic patients, 37 (9.7%) required intensive care, and nine (1.3%) died.
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This shows it doesn’t matter if "you feel fine" - nearly 10% of the passengers on the Diamond Princess didn’t show symptoms at the time of testing, even though they were infected (thus able to infect others).
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25-03-2020, 09:15
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Hugh
No, it doesn’t - at the bottom of the article it states
Detection of viral RNA does not necessarily indicate the presence of infectious virus.
To me, the important bit was in the source report
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e3_w
This shows it doesn’t matter if "you feel fine" - nearly 10% of the passengers on the Diamond Princess didn’t show symptoms at the time of testing, even though they were infected (thus able to infect others). |
Wow, that is worrying. There will be lots of people with the virus who have no idea they have it.
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