Coronavirus (OLD)

[jonbxx]

It's a tough tightrope public health bodies have to walk on with things like this...

Being 'cautiously aware' and monitoring the situation is probably where we should be now but politically, it can look like nothing much is being done. Overdoing it however can have the opposite effect creating panic. If we do not do enough to prevent the spread of a nasty bug or incite panic, both can have the same effect, people will not be at work due to either the real or perceived threat.

If coronavirus does have a 2% mortality rate, that's up there with spanish flu and something to be worried about if transmissibility is around the same as flu. That still isn't clear at the moment.

Time to review the Governments Pandemic Flu Strategy - https://assets.publishing.service.go.../dh_131040.pdf and so a search and replace for influenza and coronavirus. Also time to review business continuity plans I think (I am lucky, I am a home worker)

[Taf]

According to a virologist statement I have been reading:

"Again, being infected does not mean you will die. Probably not, especially if you are not 40+ man with underlying medical condition!"

I hope she means "person" and that this is not a sexist virus.

The fact we're all going to die from this really puts the months arguing about Brexit into perspective doesn't it?

[Mr K]

Maybe people might wash their hands now? Apparently a third don't after visiting the loo. Or the numpties that proudly come coughing and sneezing over everyone in an open plan office get sacked? Simple precautions but we seem to struggle with the basics of hygiene.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Maybe people might wash their hands now? Apparently a third don't after visiting the loo. Or the numpties that proudly come coughing and sneezing over everyone in an open plan office get sacked? Simple precautions but we seem to struggle with the basics of hygiene.

If you're worried about cleanliness read this.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...bergs-21451197

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

And whilst I don't have the exact figures to hand, I believe it to be something like 95% of deaths are not directly attributable to this strain of virus, it's due to complications of pre existing medical conditions.

If that 95% is correct that would lead to a 45 deaths from 40,573 confirmed cases that would give a mortality rate of 0.110% not lmuch different to nfluenza

Wouldn't it be more accurate to correlate the deaths to the number of confirmed victims when they became ill rather than when they died otherwise you're skewing the figures massively. You've also got to factor in that China might not be admitting how bad it is, I've heard a nasty story about people over 60 not being treated and therefore not being included in the figures

Let's listen to the WHO please and use caution but not become like Chicken Little running around shouting the sky is falling.

Originally Posted by Maggy

Let's listen to the WHO please and use caution but not become like Chicken Little running around shouting the sky is falling.

WHO map of cases

http://who.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsd...f977d77e4a0667

BREAKING: Coronavirus Total Deaths surpasses 1,000 & UK Prison inmate currently being tested for Coronavirus, recently transferred from Thailand.

• On Tuesday, 109 people died in mainland China in one day, topping 100 for the first time and bringing the total to 1,016
• There were 2,478 new confirmed cases on the mainland, taking the total to 42,638
• Around the world 462 cases are confirmed in 27 countries, with a death in Hong Kong and one in the Philippines
• As of 2pm on Tuesday, the UK had tested 1,358 people - 244 more than Monday - with eight positive
• The Westerdam cruise ship, where no coronavirus cases have been confirmed, was turned away from Thailand on Tuesday after the Philippines and Japan refused to let it dock
• Bank of England governor Mark Carney said that the virus was "from an economic perspective, already bigger than SARS"
• Postal operators in the US, China and elsewhere have said the suspension of flights is having a major impact on global flows of letters and parcels
  
  https://news.sky.com/story/two-uk-pr...virus-11931564

I think the rational and sensible thing to do now is panic. I for one have purchased a year's worth of anti-bacterial hand gel and will start eating a bottle a day of it.

[Taf]

Perhaps a good time to put off ordering stuff from China on Ebay? Delivery times might be a little erratic.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: Coronavirus Total Deaths surpasses 1,000 & UK Prison inmate currently being tested for Coronavirus, recently transferred from Thailand.

• On Tuesday, 109 people died in mainland China in one day, topping 100 for the first time and bringing the total to 1,016
• There were 2,478 new confirmed cases on the mainland, taking the total to 42,638
• Around the world 462 cases are confirmed in 27 countries, with a death in Hong Kong and one in the Philippines
• As of 2pm on Tuesday, the UK had tested 1,358 people - 244 more than Monday - with eight positive
• The Westerdam cruise ship, where no coronavirus cases have been confirmed, was turned away from Thailand on Tuesday after the Philippines and Japan refused to let it dock
• Bank of England governor Mark Carney said that the virus was "from an economic perspective, already bigger than SARS"
• Postal operators in the US, China and elsewhere have said the suspension of flights is having a major impact on global flows of letters and parcels
  
  https://news.sky.com/story/two-uk-pr...virus-11931564

Perhaps this will add a bit of perspective.

So far, 10,000 people have died and 180,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/1300-p...ry?id=67754182

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Perhaps this will add a bit of perspective.



https://abcnews.go.com/Health/1300-p...ry?id=67754182

Didn't realise the the problem was done and dusted and that there are not going to be any more cases.
Link

Coronavirus 'could infect 60% of global population if unchecked'
...
The coronavirus epidemic could spread to about two-thirds of the world’s population if it cannot be controlled, according to Hong Kong’s leading public health epidemiologist.
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Most experts thought that each person infected would go on to transmit the virus to about 2.5 other people. That gave an “attack rate” of 60-80%.
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Even if the general fatality rate is as low as 1%, which Leung thinks is possible once milder cases are taken into account, the death toll would be massive

0.6-0.8% of the World population isn't a small number. That's only around 46 million deaths.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Let's listen to the WHO please and use caution but not become like Chicken Little running around shouting the sky is falling.

WHO called this virus public enemy number one earlier, bloody fearmongers...

Originally Posted by Damien

I think the rational and sensible thing to do now is panic. I for one have purchased a year's worth of anti-bacterial hand gel and will start eating a bottle a day of it.

Possibly the sanist most logical post I've ever read, the only thing that bothers me is one bottle a day won't be enough to save you

---------- Post added at 03:17 ---------- Previous post was at 03:14 ----------

Originally Posted by nomadking

Didn't realise the the problem was done and dusted and that there are not going to be any more cases.
Link

0.6-0.8% of the World population isn't a small number. That's only around 46 million deaths.

I hope I'm wrong but I fear in two weeks the death toll will have shot up, a lot

Originally Posted by nomadking

0.6-0.8% of the World population isn't a small number. That's only around 46 million deaths.

Also rather meaningless since the entire world population isnt going to catch it.

JFYI, around 150,000 of the worlds population dies every day anyway, regardless of this virus.