UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Why are we debating this silly bong business? Is it the dearth of Brexit news that makes us grab these miserable crumbs?

One last hurrah for the people who want to be on TV having an outrage moment. I saw Mark Francois was back on the rounds bleeting on about having to have the bells.

£500,000 to make a bell ring.

I would do it for half that

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I agree. I think celebrating Brexit would be distasteful, very un-British and insulting to our former EU partners who have done nothing wrong to us.

I too have Ben consistent in saying I’m happy to remain (and keep sticking it to them) and content to leave (they are undemocratic, federalist and serving the interests of France & Germany).

But to say they’ve done nothing wrong to us is stretching reasonableness somewhat. For starters, to suit French working practices, they changed the basis for the WTD from unanimity to a H&S wheeze so that our flexible working arrangements would come under their control.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Damien

One last hurrah for the people who want to be on TV having an outrage moment. I saw Mark Francois was back on the rounds bleeting on about having to have the bells.

He's got to be one of the most talentless pratts in Parliament, which is some achievement...

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

[COLOR="Blue"]I too have Ben consistent in saying I’m happy to remain (and keep sticking it to them) and content to leave (they are undemocratic, federalist and serving the interests of France & Germany).

It is nice that the the thread has now become full of remain converts.. See, I knew CF members weren't all bad .

We're missing the EU before we've left, maybe we've had a glimpse of the brave new future. Thing is, no matter how many may disown it in the coming years months or blame others for things going wrong (what's new ?!) Brexit ownership and it's consequences will be very much copywrite the Tory party.

Originally Posted by Mr K

He's got to be one of the most talentless pratts in Parliament, which is some achievement...

here we go again, he’s a Brexiteer, so according to your warped findings, he has to be so bad. Change the record FFS.

For the record. He got a far more interesting CV, than you will ever have.

But nonetheless. The above is a typical pathetic response from a hardline Remainer and chief moaner, who cannot accept their side lost, SEVERAL times!

[papa smurf]

Brexit: 'No alignment' with EU on regulation, Javid tells business

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51157933

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Brexit: 'No alignment' with EU on regulation, Javid tells business

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51157933

As it should be. We’re leaving the EU’s corrupted policies behind, the whole point is, we are leaving our seat at the table, so we will not be a rule taker either.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Brexit: 'No alignment' with EU on regulation, Javid tells business

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51157933

To his credit, Javid knows the damage this will cause the country

Sajid Javid: The only thing leaving the EU guarantees is a lost decade for British business
I was Culture Secretary at the time, and the company’s chief executive was explaining why they’d chosen the UK for their main base outside North America.
It had a lot to do with wealth of creative talent here. But the clincher was the Single Market – it meant they could broadcast to up to half a billion viewers across 28 countries and only have to deal with regulators in the UK. Thanks to common standards across Europe, they didn’t have to worry about meeting the demands of dozens of different local bureaucrats.
It was a similar story when I worked in financial services. If I wanted to seal a deal in, say, Paris, all I had to do was hop on a train, get the paperwork signed and head home again. My biggest worry was whether I’d be back in time to put the kids to bed.
I’m a Eurosceptic and proud of it. I think the Euro is a bad idea. I have no time for ever-closer union and I’ve long been a vocal critic of Brussels’ worst excesses.
But, just like Bank of England Governor Mark Carney and IMF head Christine Lagarde, I still believe that Britain is better off in. And that’s all because of the Single Market.
It’s a great invention, one that even Lady Thatcher campaigned enthusiastically to create.
The world’s largest economic bloc, it gives every business in Britain access to 500 million customers with no barriers, no tariffs and no local legislation to worry about.
It’s no surprise that nearly half of our exports go to other EU nations, exports that are linked to three million jobs here in the UK. And as an EU member we also have preferential access to more than 50 other international markets from Mexico to Montenegro, helping us to export £50 billion of goods and services to them every year.
Even companies that are neither exporters nor part of the export supply chain – your local corner shop, for example – benefit from the economic growth that kind of access brings.

https://www.sajidjavid.com/news/saji...itish-business

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

To his credit, Javid knows the damage this will cause the country


https://www.sajidjavid.com/news/saji...itish-business

l does tie in with Boris Johnson's "**** business" agenda so they are singing from the same hymn sheet though.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

To his credit, Javid knows the damage this will cause the country


https://www.sajidjavid.com/news/saji...itish-business

Isn’t it funny how “People in a true democracy can change their minds.” But only when it benefits those with a one sided agenda.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Isn’t it funny how “People in a true democracy can change their minds.” But only when it benefits those with a one sided agenda.

Has Javid actually changed his mind?

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Originally Posted by denphone

l does tie in with Boris Johnson's "**** business" agenda so they are singing from the same hymn sheet though.

Airbus and Vauxhall can't be too happy. I really hope that it's just pre-negotiation posturing.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I too have Ben consistent in saying I’m happy to remain (and keep sticking it to them) and content to leave (they are undemocratic, federalist and serving the interests of France & Germany).

But to say they’ve done nothing wrong to us is stretching reasonableness somewhat. For starters, to suit French working practices, they changed the basis for the WTD from unanimity to a H&S wheeze so that our flexible working arrangements would come under their control.

Everything the EU did, whilst we were members, we were party to.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I too have Ben consistent in saying I’m happy to remain (and keep sticking it to them) and content to leave (they are undemocratic, federalist and serving the interests of France & Germany).

But to say they’ve done nothing wrong to us is stretching reasonableness somewhat. For starters, to suit French working practices, they changed the basis for the WTD from unanimity to a H&S wheeze so that our flexible working arrangements would come under their control.

Yes, what utter barstewards, ensuring workers the right to at least 4 weeks in paid holidays each year, rest breaks, and rest of at least 11 hours in any 24 hours; restricting excessive night work; a day off after a week's work; and provides for a right to work no more than 48 hours per week.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, what utter barstewards, ensuring workers the right to at least 4 weeks in paid holidays each year, rest breaks, and rest of at least 11 hours in any 24 hours; restricting excessive night work; a day off after a week's work; and provides for a right to work no more than 48 hours per week.

That has to be set off against the fear of France and others that UK working practices gave the UK a potential advantage. So they stiffed us - albet people in the UK have the right to opt out.

What UK working practices gave us advantages, please?