Election 2019 - Week 5

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Being pedantic, they have. A work colleague is constantly telling everyone that she has already voted...by post.!

Yep, I've voted too. None of that trudging to the polling station in the snow for me.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Yep, I've voted too. None of that trudging to the polling station in the snow for me.

You're spoiling all the fun

Boris seems to be hiding in a fridge today, to avoid anyone remembering which clown they are electing !

Boris Johnson appeared to duck questions about his failure to appear on Good Morning Britain by hiding in a fridge as he began the final day of general election campaign by loading milk in West Yorkshire.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9241661.html

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Looks like the lies and stunts being pulled by Labour are making very little difference to the Conservative lead in the polls.

Yes thank goodness Labour didn't suceed by turning their Twitter account into a fake fact checking site, didn't suceed by making fake videos and then going on telly to defend that video, didn't claim someone had been punched and arrests made when neither had happened, didn't unleash an army of bots and fanatics on the mother of a sick child, didn't try and make political capital out of a dead son during a terrorist attack and didn't run of with a reporters mobile phone rather than look at a photo, thank the heavens labour didn't get away with any of that and I'd personally like bozo to get hos cummupance because for the first time since John Smith was alive I'm seriously contemplating voting Labour purely because we cannot keep allowing political campaigns to go lower into the gutter each time and they will aa long as the parry doing the worst of it keep winning

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yes, JR-M's notable absence has been a feature of the election. As have the Conservatives' misleading social media adverts.

Commendably, no misleading claims were found in Labour's but for the Conservatives "88% (5,952) of the party's most widely promoted ads either featured claims which had been flagged by independent fact-checking organisations (including BBC Reality Check) as not correct or not entirely correct."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50726500

Is it really a surprise Mugg has been kept out of sight considering on day one of campaigning he said the victims of Grenfel Tower didn't have enough common sense to save themselves, in days gone by that would've been enough to grant the public a lot longer rest from you than just a campaigning season but today politicians can say what ever they like without consequence, the PM can even appear on a live tv debate qnd have his honesty and integrity questioned and it gets a laugh, sums up our political system at the moment, a joke.

[papa smurf]

Jezza gets a great endorsement from 15 ex labour MP's

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/105261...jeremy-corbyn/



“Everyone wants a safer, fairer society. But in this election the Labour Party is set to deliver the opposite.

“We were all lifelong Labour voters and all former Labour MPs. We are voting for different parties at this election, but we have all come to the difficult decision not to vote Labour.”

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Mr K

You're spoiling all the fun

On the contrary, I'm having lots of fun telling canvassers they are too late

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yes, JR-M's notable absence has been a feature of the election. As have the Conservatives' misleading social media adverts.

Commendably, no misleading claims were found in Labour's but for the Conservatives "88% (5,952) of the party's most widely promoted ads either featured claims which had been flagged by independent fact-checking organisations (including BBC Reality Check) as not correct or not entirely correct."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50726500

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh better not tell OB that Andrew


General election news – live: Boris Johnson escapes into fridge to avoid interview, as major poll showing ‘fast and late’ Labour surge leaves Tories alarmed

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9241661.html

[Sephiroth]

I spotted this gentleman on the Tube wearing Vote Labour gear.

Well, someone has to I suppose.

I can't wait for this election to be over. I hate people talking about it, I hate both the parties that could form a government, I hate people debasing themselves to become sycophants of politicians who'll screw over just as much as the next one and I hate that everyone seems to have jumped down the conspiracy rabbit hole.

[Pierre]

I want Boris to win with a majority so we can get the Withdrawal Agreement through, hopefully a trade agreement with the term of the Government, and stop a Scottish Indy Ref.

And also hopefully get onto other issues such as policing and the NHS.

Then in 2024, we can have an election on the performance of this government, and if Labour ( or anyone else ) won then I wouldn’t complain...............well maybe a little bit.

Originally Posted by Damien

I can't wait for this election to be over. I hate people talking about it, I hate both the parties that could form a government, I hate people debasing themselves to become sycophants of politicians who'll screw over just as much as the next one and I hate that everyone seems to have jumped down the conspiracy rabbit hole.

This is what social media does for you. Forces everyone into tribes where opinions are echoed, reinforced and presented as self-evident via trite memes.

I don’t much like any of the party leaders ... my view of Jo Swinson is almost ambivalent but dragged down by her defence of the indefensible, namely her party’s lunatic policy of calling off Brexit without even a fresh referendum. Nonetheless if I lived only a short distance from where I do, she’d be my constituency MP and I’d vote for her to ensure a plurality of views is heard in Parliament, but mostly to keep the Nats out.

Keeping the Nat out is one of the reasons for my choice of candidate tomorrow. But mostly, I voted Leave, I believe our country’s best future is outside the restrictions of the EU and I’m voting for the only party with a credible proposition for bringing that about.

I’m not voting for Boris, I’m voting for a local businessman who is aligned with the Conservative party and who will vote for the sorts of measures I want to see implemented.

[heero_yuy]

By 2024 Labour will have ditched Corbyn, the mad socialist Marxism and made themselves electable?

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Chris

This is what social media does for you. Forces everyone into tribes where opinions are echoed, reinforced and presented as self-evident via trite memes.

I don’t much like any of the party leaders ... my view of Jo Swinson is almost ambivalent but dragged down by her defence of the indefensible, namely her party’s lunatic policy of calling off Brexit without even a fresh referendum. Nonetheless if I lived only a short distance from where I do, she’d be my constituency MP and I’d vote for her to ensure a plurality of views is heard in Parliament, but mostly to keep the Nats out.

Keeping the Nat out is one of the reasons for my choice of candidate tomorrow. But mostly, I voted Leave, I believe our country’s best future is outside the restrictions of the EU and I’m voting for the only party with a credible proposition for bringing that about.

I’m not voting for Boris, I’m voting for a local businessman who is aligned with the Conservative party and who will vote for the sorts of measures I want to see implemented.

My sentiments exactly. I am not a natural Conservative voter but as the only party likely to honour the referendum result I only have one choice.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

By 2024 Labour will have ditched Corbyn, the mad socialist Marxism and made themselves electable?

After Callaghan’s defeat in 1979 Labour lurched hard to the Left and installed Michael Foot, whose defeat led to Neil Kinnock, who then began the process of eliminating the red weed from the party. He hadn’t changed things enough for the electorate’s liking by 1992 (also the Tories had salvaged their chances by defenestrating Thatcher) so John Smith got the gig. Had he not died in post he might have won in 1997, but I’d say that’s not a given, and it’s by no means certain he’d have achieved the landslide Blair did by making himself look like the heir to Thatcher.

If Labour lose tomorrow night (and I think they will), Corbyn will go but he will only be replaced by someone Momentum thinks it can trust ... that could be a closet reformer ... a Kinnock figure, if you like ... but then it will take whoever that is a long time to deradicalise the party again. On the other hand John McDonnell might get the job, and Labour will remain on the hard left for another decade.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yes thank goodness Labour didn't suceed by turning their Twitter account into a fake fact checking site, didn't suceed by making fake videos and then going on telly to defend that video, didn't claim someone had been punched and arrests made when neither had happened, didn't unleash an army of bots and fanatics on the mother of a sick child, didn't try and make political capital out of a dead son during a terrorist attack and didn't run of with a reporters mobile phone rather than look at a photo, thank the heavens labour didn't get away with any of that and I'd personally like bozo to get hos cummupance because for the first time since John Smith was alive I'm seriously contemplating voting Labour purely because we cannot keep allowing political campaigns to go lower into the gutter each time and they will aa long as the parry doing the worst of it keep winning

So you are quite happy to vote for a terrorist sympathiser and Marxist Communist who likes to give the impression that he's had to sit on the floor of a train due to capitalist over-crowding (when there are plenty of seats available); who likes to dig up 'dossiers' to prove his conspiracy theories when there are none (like his alleged sale of the NHS, which he has weaponised nicely); who claims that austerity was an ideological choice and we should have borrowed our way out of bankruptcy (despite the obvious fact that anyone with a grain of intelligence knows is potty, and with every intention of getting us where we would have been had he been in charge in double quick time with his wishlist of unachievable policies); etc, etc, etc.

Well good luck with that reasoning. Fortunately, even life-long Labour supporters have seen through his nonsense and will not be voting for their party while he is Leader. Sad to see that you have lost your way in all this fog.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

By 2024 Labour will have ditched Corbyn, the mad socialist Marxism and made themselves electable?

That is my hope, but I fear that with Momentum's help, we might get someone even worse.