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		|  15-12-2004, 14:05 | #1 |  
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				Domain Name Renewal Qn
			 
 
			
			How long after a .co.uk domain name (owned by someone else) expires does it become available to purchase by the general public.  I seem to recall it being 60 days?
 The WhoIs is says "Registration Status:       Renewal required."
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		|  15-12-2004, 14:13 | #2 |  
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			I thought it was around 90 days, at which point it then deletes at (essentially) a random time.
 However if it's a 'good' name, you have very little chance of grabbing it before one of the automated systems gets it, or the registrar themselves grabs it
 
 After renewal required, it should then go to a pending delete status
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		|  15-12-2004, 14:19 | #3 |  
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				Re: Domain Name Renewal Qn
			 
 
			
			it's actually a bit more than you'd think.. (.co.uk anyway) 
nominet (the .uk registrar) invoice you 7 days after expiry, and suspend the domain 30 days after that for a further 60 days..
http://www.nominet.org.uk/MakingChan...nName/Renewal/ 
basically, from expiry date to availability could take up to 97 days.
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		|  15-12-2004, 14:39 | #4 |  
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				Re: Domain Name Renewal Qn
			 
 
			
			
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				 However if it's a 'good' name, you have very little chance of grabbing it before one of the automated systems gets it, or the registrar themselves grabs it |  Automated systems?  DN sniping?  How, where, who?
 
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				  basically, from expiry date to availability could take up to 97 days. |  Thanks, I was thinking of the detagged status of 60 days.
 
Diary note for 90 days time then.
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		|  15-12-2004, 15:02 | #5 |  
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				 Automated systems?  DN sniping?  How, where, who?
 Thanks, I was thinking of the detagged status of 60 days.
 
 Diary note for 90 days time then.
 |  A lot of places allow you to 'backorder' a name - to use their automated system to grab the name - it may be different for .co.uk names - it's really only .coms that I have looked at over time - places like www.clubdrop.com , www.pool.com  deal with auctioning dropped names. 
 
Just had a look through some of my stuff and  http://www.dropcatcher.co.uk/  deals with .co.uks
 
pool.com also deals with .co.uk's - but be prepared to pay big time if it's a good name. often these things go into closed auctions if enough people want it
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		|  15-12-2004, 15:45 | #6 |  
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			Incidentally, if anyone is looking at possibly making some money in the future - it may be worth investing a bit of money in the new .sc domain names - registration costs about 30 quid a year (sadly I don't sell them, so I'm not even plugging for new business    ) - because the costs are quite high, there still seems to be a lot of 'good' domain names going - i.e. single word, brandable domain names - hopefully once they pick up in popularity they should be worth a fair bit - sex.sc is alread being auctioned on sedo - and has a fair few bids : http://www.sedo.de/search/details.ph...artnerid=13623 
There's no cast iron promise that they will go up in value, but you never know...
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		|  15-12-2004, 19:49 | #7 |  
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				Re: Domain Name Renewal Qn
			 
 
			
			I wrote a script to monitor the output from the nominet whois record using Lynx (a dos command line browser) onto http://195.66.240.211/cgi-bin/whois....bleforum.co.uk 
I then searched for certain phrases in the text and then got it to send an email (all command line) to my works email address which I created a rule on to forward the message to my mobile.
 
I ran this every 30 minutes (frequency of page changes at nominet)
 
good luck!
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		|  16-12-2004, 12:21 | #8 |  
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				Re: Domain Name Renewal Qn
			 
 
			
			I've got some java classes that deal with automated whois lookups for domain names (I've been using them to check for the existance of all 3 and 4 letter domains) - would be very easy to change it so that it just looks for one domain name and polls frequently.... if anyone is interested, or wants them
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