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				Wow, how obnoxiously ignorant can you get?   
people vote a different way, or view to you and you refer to them as idiots. They are right though, our toxic Parliament has had plenty of time to scrutinise, seizing the order paper, making stupid laws.  
			
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 Parliament comprises our directly-accountable representatives awwho have to answer to their constituents.  And they've not had any proposals from BoJo to scrutinise.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-09-2019, 08:26
			
			
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				Parliament comprises our directly-accountable representatives awwho have to answer to their constituents.  And they've not had any proposals from BoJo to scrutinise. 
			
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 No they have their proposals, that’s why it’s toxic, they are not representing the people, who instructed them we voted to leave.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-09-2019, 08:56
			
			
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			We don’t leave on Oct 31st and general election in November is the only outcome I can see. 
 
I don’t think BoJo has a nuclear option available that he can use.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			25-09-2019, 09:02
			
			
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				We don’t leave on Oct 31st and general election in November is the only outcome I can see.
  
			
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 Same here.  
 
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				I don’t think BoJo has a nuclear option available that he can use. 
			
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			25-09-2019, 09:10
			
			
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				We don’t leave on Oct 31st and general election in November is the only outcome I can see. 
 
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			25-09-2019, 09:31
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Mick
					 
				 
				Wow, how obnoxiously ignorant can you get?   
people vote a different way, or view to you and you refer to them as idiots. They are right though, our toxic Parliament has had plenty of time to scrutinise, seizing the order paper, making stupid laws.  
			
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 That's not what I actually said. 
 
If people "want Brexit done" it's bizarre they also think prorogation is unlawful.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-09-2019, 09:55
			
			
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			This has gone a bit under the radar over the weekend because of Brexit but this story about a women alleged to have been a temporary girlfriend of Boris Johnson getting multiple tax payer handouts whilst he was London Mayor might be worse for him:  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/999296...arcuri-handout
It seems he won't deny he had an affair with her and whilst that was going on it appears she was paid with taxpayer money to go on multiple trade trips with him and her company was also getting money from public funds whilst he was Mayor.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-09-2019, 09:56
			
			
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			25-09-2019, 10:06
			
			
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 The whole system is corrupt, the way in which we renumerate MPs encourages corruption and sharp practice, so we shouldn’t be surprised when they are caught at it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			25-09-2019, 11:41
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Pierre
					 
				 
				We don’t leave on Oct 31st and general election in November is the only outcome I can see. 
 
I don’t think BoJo has a nuclear option available that he can use. 
			
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 few of us said on here we still be in EU on 1st November and then you see the ERG drop Johnson like a ton of bricks
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			25-09-2019, 12:11
			
			
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			How about this scenario from a PM that *probably* knows he has nothing left to lose . .  
PM plays the game up until the last minute, then goes to the EU and tells them we are leaving, there will be no extension asked for. PM then resigns in November when everyone starts screaming for his head.
 
General election returns Lib Dem with massive majority, who then try to get the UK back into the EU . .  leading to another 3 years or more of bitter arguments   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			25-09-2019, 12:24
			
			
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				The whole system is corrupt, the way in which we renumerate MPs encourages corruption and sharp practice, so we shouldn’t be surprised when they are caught at it. 
			
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 It's when he was Mayor of London being paid £140k a year.  
 
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				How about this scenario from a PM that *probably* knows he has nothing left to lose . .  
PM plays the game up until the last minute, then goes to the EU and tells them we are leaving, there will be no extension asked for. PM then resigns in November when everyone starts screaming for his head.
 
General election returns Lib Dem with massive majority, who then try to get the UK back into the EU . .  leading to another 3 years or more of bitter arguments    
			
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 That would put BJ into the history books, but perhaps not in the way he wanted.
 
However, it's more likely the scenario below.
 https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...chief-11804290 
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				Former Supreme Court judge Lord Sumption also told Sky News there would be "plenty of ways" to enforce the law. 
 
He said MPs opposed to no-deal could apply for an injunction ordering Mr Johnson to authorise a delay. 
 
If the prime minister still refused to comply, a judge could make an order demanding that a government official sign off the extension "in place of the prime minister". 
 
"He's not going to be marched off to Pentonville Prison… it's much less dramatic than all that", he added. 
 
However, the author and historian told Sky News he thought it was unlikely to get to that point as senior civil servants would refuse to co-operate with a prime minister who was wilfully breaking the law.
			
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			25-09-2019, 12:30
			
			
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			What world are we living in???? 
Boris Johnson should be booted out of Parliament immediately for what he did.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			25-09-2019, 12:44
			
			
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				What world are we living in???? 
Boris Johnson should be booted out of Parliament immediately for what he did. 
			
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 Yep, he's a very naughty boy isn't he.
 
He'd have had less of a slapping if he decided to collude with a foreign power to bomb the crap out of a country that didn't have any WMD anyway, just like that nice honorable Mr Blair did
 
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			25-09-2019, 12:46
			
			
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