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			11-09-2019, 14:04
			
			
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				Are you sure about that? 
			
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 Passive smoking can affect other peoples health when smoking was allowed in pubs before it was banned and that fact is undisputable.
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				Passive smoking can cause premature death in non-smokers. Passive smoking increases the risk of coronary heart disease by 25-40% - almost the same level as a smoker. Second-hand smoke contains more than 7000 chemicals, with 69 cancer-causing chemicals. There is no known safe level of exposure to second-hand smoke.
			
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				Passive smoking 'kills 600,000' worldwide. The first global study into the effects of passive smoking has estimated it causes 600,000 deaths every year. One-third of those killed are children, often exposed to smoke at home, the World Health Organization (WHO) suggeste
			
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				Yep, stayed at home drinking and smoking in front of their kids . .  well thought out policy wasn't it. 
 
Oh, and improved (legislated) ventilation in separate rooms would have been enough to allow smoking in some places . .  with of course the obligatory warning signs for those who were too thick to understand the difference between smoking and non smoking areas 
			
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 Pretty irresponsible to smoke in front of children don't you agree?  
 
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				Why,the non-smokers didn't suddenly rush to become pub customers and public houses started closing in droves as smokers stayed at home and bought their drink from supermarkets. 
 
I do agree that some pubs should have been allowed to declare a no -smoking policy but to force it on all... 
			
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 Public houses starting closing in droves because it was cheaper to buy booze from the supermarkets and that trend is continuing to this day.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-09-2019, 14:08
			
			
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			11-09-2019, 14:11
			
			
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				Passive smoking can affect other peoples health when smoking was allowed in pubs before it was banned and that fact is undisputable. 
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ths-who-report
 
 
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Pretty irresponsible to smoke in front of children don't you agree?  
 
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Public houses starting closing in droves because it was cheaper to buy booze from the supermarkets and that trend is continuing to this day. 
			
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 They started closing in droves because drinkers had to go outside in all sorts of weather to have a smoke. Drink was always cheaper in supermarkets.
 
It was a stupid decision which will have a lasting effect on communities.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-09-2019, 14:36
			
			
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				They started closing in droves because drinkers had to go outside in all sorts of weather to have a smoke. Drink was always cheaper in supermarkets. 
 
It was a stupid decision which will have a lasting effect on communities. 
			
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 I agree. The positive effect on health within our most deprived communities will be lasting.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-09-2019, 15:02
			
			
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				Passive smoking can affect other peoples health when smoking was allowed in pubs before it was banned and that fact is undisputable. 
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ths-who-report
 
 
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Pretty irresponsible to smoke in front of children don't you agree?  
 
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 Too many facts there for some  Den :  
Pubs are also closing because the latest drinking generation prefer to do other things.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Too many facts there for some  Den :  
Pubs are also closing because the latest drinking generation prefer to do other things.  
			
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 The banning of smoking was not THE reason for pub closures but it was more than one nail in the coffin.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-09-2019, 15:36
			
			
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			From the UK Government's Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice. 
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Our judges are renowned around the world for their excellence and impartiality and I have total confidence in their independence in every case. 
 
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			11-09-2019, 15:44
			
			
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				From the UK Government's Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice. 
			
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				I'm sure Iran says the same about their judges   
			
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 So Boris is the same as Ayatollah Ali Khamenei?
 
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				So Boris is the same as Ayatollah Ali Khamenei? 
 
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				No judges are the same ,do pay attention young man    
			
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				No judges are the same ,do pay attention young man    
			
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 Not sure what your point is?
 
The highest Law Officer in the U.K. commends our judges’ excellence and impartiality, states he has total confidence in their independence, and you compare that statement with Iran and it’s judges - so?
 
Anyhoo, BJ says no to NF.
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Mr Farage said his party and the Conservatives should make a deal and "together we would be unstoppable". 
 
Two newspaper adverts set out his offer to help "secure a big Brexit majority" and to "destroy Corbyn's Labour". 
 
But a senior Conservative source said Mr Farage was "not a fit and proper person" and "should never be allowed anywhere near government".
			
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				No judges are the same ,do pay attention young man    
			
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 Correct - You have 2 out of 3 cases, saying Boris Proroguing Parliament was lawful and a Scottish Court saying not -, you got a former Supreme Court Justice, Lord Sumption saying, it's not unlawful, who's right...?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Correct - You have 2 out of 3 cases, saying Boris Proroguing Parliament was lawful and a Scottish Court saying not -, you got a former Supreme Court Justice, Lord Sumption saying, it's not unlawful, who's right...? 
			
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