PM Boris forms a government - Page 139

denphone · 07-09-2019, 22:32

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Can't help being reminded of a certain well-known Queen track.

Will the last rational Conservative to quit the party please switch out the lights please as they are going down like ninepins.

Sephiroth · 07-09-2019, 22:35

She is an arch Remainer who showed her discomfort with her pretence at supporting Boris. Why she accepted a cabinet position is a mystery to me.

**Damien** · 07-09-2019, 22:44

Not really a surprise. She is a rather moderate one nation Tory and would have been one of the rebels had she not been in the cabinet so as soon as they were gone her days were numbers. I think Hancock and Gove might be looking at the writing on the wall too.

Sephiroth · 07-09-2019, 22:49

Interesting call on Gove.

1andrew1 · 07-09-2019, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Interesting call on Gove.

Do you think he might be sharpening his knife? I think Mr K has suggested he might be biding his time.

Sephiroth · 07-09-2019, 23:08

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Do you think he might be sharpening his knife? I think Mr K has suggested he might be biding his time.

Who knows. Anything can happen.

1andrew1 · 07-09-2019, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Who knows. Anything can happen.

You said "interesting call on Gove", so I wondered if Mr Redwood had shared some gossip with you.

Sephiroth · 07-09-2019, 23:34

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You said "interesting call on Gove", so I wondered if Mr Redwood had shared some gossip with you.

I'm not due to see him before 01-November.

1andrew1 · 08-09-2019, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm not due to see him before 01-November.

Maybe he will see you a little earlier if you announce that you are a valued CF contributor?

**Hugh** · 08-09-2019, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Indulge me. What have I failed to comprehend?

We were discussing/disagreeing on the Vienna Convention, and unilateral/bilateral termination of Treaties, not Article 50...

Hope this helps...

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm not due to see him before 01-November.

I assume that’s because he’s busy the previous day...

Pierre · 08-09-2019, 08:54

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Originally Posted by Hugh

We were discussing/disagreeing on the Vienna Convention, and unilateral/bilateral termination of Treaties, not Article 50...

Hope this helps...

Not really. It certainly doesn’t help you.

Article 50 is the mechanism in the “Treaty” of Lisbon. Which is a Treaty, is it not? To terminate membership

In the discussion Nomadking claimed the Backstop was illegal because it prevented the unilateral Withdrawl from an agreement. I.e. A.50 Treaty of Lisbon.

You then went off about the Vienna convention, which quite simply doesn’t apply in this instance because A.50 exists in the Treaty of Lisbon for this very purpose.

The backstop isn’t illegal, because it is not binding and we can choose to ignore it if we so wish. But the question over whether agreement of us leaving or not has been answered and is not in question.

So next time you try to put an amusing Gif on a post, make sure you fully understand what it is you’re trying to take the piss out of, or you may look a bit thick.

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lol, a dangerous question to ask!

Not to Hugh it isn’t.

1andrew1 · 08-09-2019, 09:33

The most worrying thing about this to me isn't BoJo breaking the law but Ian Duncan Smith's talk of martyrs. That is the language of extremists.

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Tory grandee Iain Duncan Smith has told Mr Johnson to hold his nerve, saying he would be ‘martyred’ if he chose to break the law and risk a possible jail term for contempt of Parliament.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/07/boris...exit-10701787/

Sephiroth · 08-09-2019, 10:19

The following letter in yesterday's Torygraph says it all:

"The schedule of the Bill being passed this week instructs the Prime Minister to sign and send a letter surrendering his government and its foreign policy to a foreign power - the EU. What we have witnessed is not democracy but the first Vichy Parliament in British history."

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The most worrying thing about this to me isn't BoJo breaking the law but Ian Duncan Smith's talk of martyrs. That is the language of extremists.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/07/boris...exit-10701787/

Typical disingenuous spin. IDS used the term "martyred" in
the sense of "crucified".

If that is the "most worrying thing" to you than I suggest you re-evaluate yourself.

1andrew1 · 08-09-2019, 10:21

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The following letter in yesterday's Torygraph says it all:

"The schedule of the Bill being passed this week instructs the Prime Minister to sign and send a letter surrendering his government and its foreign policy to a foreign power - the EU. What we have witnessed is not democracy but the first Vichy Parliament in British history."

As soon as someone tries to invoke WW2 metaphors in this context, you know they don't have a convincing argument. This letter is a prime example, published in a paper that is anti-EU as its rich proprietors the Barclay Brothers dislike attempts to clamp down on their tax lopholes.

**Damien** · 08-09-2019, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

[COLOR="Blue"]The following letter in yesterday's Torygraph says it all:

"The schedule of the Bill being passed this week instructs the Prime Minister to sign and send a letter surrendering his government and its foreign policy to a foreign power - the EU. What we have witnessed is not democracy but the first Vichy Parliament in British history."

Says a lot about the loss of perspective some have. Vichy Parliament? Really?