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			BJ’s letter to Tory party members when he was seeking to be elected as Leader. 
 
		 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			29-08-2019, 11:05
			
			
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				BJ’s letter to Tory party members when he was seeking to be elected as Leader. 
  
			
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 What exactly is the point you're trying to make ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			29-08-2019, 11:25
			
			
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				What exactly is the point you're trying to make ? 
			
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 I was going to ask the same.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2019, 11:29
			
			
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				I was going to ask the same. 
			
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 Errmm, have you read it ??
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2019, 11:31
			
			
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			Did I miss the bit when there was "consensus in the House of Commons"? His intention therefore doesn't apply and is irrelevant.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2019, 11:35
			
			
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			He's an habitual liar, sacked many times for it, and hasn't changed....   The Tory manifesto for the next election we can file next to Enid Blyton.....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2019, 11:38
			
			
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				He's an habitual liar, sacked many times for it, and hasn't changed....   The Tory manifesto for the next election we can file next to Enid Blyton..... 
			
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 He is  a  liar , a charlatan and a few other names besides just about fits his description...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			So are you all wilfully missing the deliberately vague wording of “not attracted to” and “believe in finding”, or are you genuinely novices when it comes to following British politics? 
 
Come on folks, this is kindergarten stuff.  There’s enough wriggle room in that letter to drop my kids’ worm farm through it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2019, 11:53
			
			
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			It was contingent on there being consensus. There isn't, so all bets are off.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-08-2019, 12:00
			
			
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				It was contingent on there being consensus. There isn't, so all bets are off. 
			
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 Of course it was but as always happens the usual suspects on here proclaim their outrage.
 
Pathetic and obtuse as always.
 
Perhaps when Gina Miller's judicial review gets thrown out next week thay will rail against the Legal Establishment as well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Of course it was but as always happens the usual suspects on here proclaim their outrage. 
 
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 Forum Members have different views surely it is pretty easy to accept that...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Of course it was but as always happens the usual suspects on here proclaim their outrage. 
 
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 Ahh... the 'usual suspects' tag, usually used by the 'usual suspects'    
 
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				So are you all wilfully missing the deliberately vague wording of “not attracted to” and “believe in finding”, or are you genuinely novices when it comes to following British politics? 
 
Come on folks, this is kindergarten stuff.  There’s enough wriggle room in that letter to drop my kids’ worm farm through it. 
			
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 It's kindergarten stuff to pretend he meant something different to what he said.  the general meaning is clear. 'Wriggle room' is lawyers speak to get out of something you did/said. 
 
Me thinks though doth protest too much when your chosen one has been found out (again). 
 
BTW his hair is a lie too, pure synthetic...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Ahh... the 'usual suspects' tag, usually used by the 'usual suspects'    
 
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It's kindergarten stuff to pretend he meant something different to what he said.  the general meaning is clear. 'Wriggle room' is lawyers speak to get out of something you did/said. 
 
Me thinks though doth protest too much when your chosen one has been found out (again). 
 
BTW his hair is a lie too, pure synthetic...  
			
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 Oh come on, you’re not this naive.  Politicians use wording, whenever they’re indicating a course of action, that allows them later to change their minds without having told an outright lie.
 
When a politician indicates a course of action - or in this case indicates what he would prefer not to do - in terms of what he finds attractive, he’s not making a promise, he’s discussing his thought process.
 
I’m not excusing him, by the way.  I wish our politics was a lot more straightforward, but he has most definitely worded the letter merely to dampen down speculation about prorogation.  There is unequivocally no promise not to prorogue in that letter, and I sincerely doubt that any of the regular contributors here genuinely think otherwise.  Your faux outrage is every bit as politically motivated as Boris’ weasel words were.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				He is  a  liar , a charlatan and a few other names besides just about fits his description... 
			
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 Seems to have the perfect traits for a successful PM then   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Seems to have the perfect traits for a successful PM then    
			
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 My description would just not apply to Boris Johnson  as you can attach that description to quite a few politicians of all political colours.
 
l like politicians who say what they mean and keep those promises instead of many modern politicians who obfuscate . lie .  connive and many other things besides  all the way through their political lives.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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