PM Boris forms a government - Page 85

jfman · 20-08-2019, 15:47

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Backstop rejected
Election called after no-deal
DUP lose leverage
Border in the Irish Sea.

I cannot wait.

pip08456 · 20-08-2019, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Damien

Backstop rejected
Election called after no-deal
DUP lose leverage
Border in the Irish Sea.

Link??

jfman · 20-08-2019, 16:43

Boris "really means" backstop discussion must be reopened.

Pierre · 20-08-2019, 16:48

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The Palestinian Authority. The thriving economy that it is.

Corbyn will be thrilled though.

**Damien** · 20-08-2019, 16:49

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Link??

It's my guess of what might happen.

pip08456 · 20-08-2019, 17:29

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It's my guess of what might happen.

Not very good at it are you?

jfman · 20-08-2019, 17:33

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Not very good at it are you?

No worse than those predicting the EU offering a last minute deal.

pip08456 · 20-08-2019, 17:37

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No worse than those predicting the EU offering a last minute deal.

And no worse than those predicting the sky will fall in if we leave with no deal.

1andrew1 · 20-08-2019, 18:47

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And no worse than those predicting the sky will fall in if we leave with no deal.

Except that no one actually predicted this, it's just been a strawman to hide genuine issues.

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Yes trick or treat or begged for extension

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+ Tories blamed for chaos and Corbyn PM, a price worth paying ?

Could be Boris says "The EU are caving in, I need more time to secure a deal." before agreeing to a relabelled backstop.

pip08456 · 20-08-2019, 18:48

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Except that no one actually predicted this, it's just been a strawman to hide genuine issues.

OK Mr Pedant, how about this.

And no worse than those predicting we will fall off a cliff edge if we leave with no deal.

Happier?

**Damien** · 20-08-2019, 19:23

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Not very good at it are you?

What do you get out of being needlessly aggressive?

It’s a prediction of a possible course of action.

pip08456 · 20-08-2019, 19:30

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What do you get out of being needlessly aggressive?

It’s a prediction of a possible course of action.

You made a statement not a prediction. As you well know remainers are full of predictions but state them as facts.

**Chris** · 21-08-2019, 00:13

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Looks like the EU have rejected Boris backstop demand (again), now there's a surprise ! We blink again and again and they remain steadfast.

He has no plan, being PM and just trying to muddle through seemed to be about it. What a plonker.

No deal is a bluff and he's been found out.

The European Commission isn’t authorised to do anything else at present. It won’t (can’t) change its tune unless the member states agree a different approach, and then instruct the EC accordingly.

If anything changes it will first be thrashed out on the fringes of the G7 next week. France and Germany will then go and tell the rest of them what to think. BoJo’s letter was never intended to get the EC to change its position today, it was intended to put his absolute rejection of the backstop and his determination to leave the EU in October in writing, before the G7, by way or convincing Macron and Merkel that he’s actually serious about it.

They may still be unmoved, in which case his final gambit will be to try to blame EU intransigence for No Deal, but understanding that Boris isn’t bluffing might be what does make them move.

I believe an acceptable fudge, sans backstop, will be forthcoming, and when Parliament sits it will be presented with a single deal or no deal scenario to vote on. I wonder who would vote no deal in such a binary situation.

Mr K · 21-08-2019, 10:14

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I believe an acceptable fudge, sans backstop, will be forthcoming, and when Parliament sits it will be presented with a single deal or no deal scenario to vote on. I wonder who would vote no deal in such a binary situation.

And I believe Forest Green Rovers will win the FA Cup this year

Thing is, even without the backstop it's a really crap deal. It leaves us much worse off than if we stayed in the EU, however that now seems to be an irrelevance to true ''believers', any opposition is 'collaboration', being a 'quisling' or 'treachery'. Wake up and listen to the mad, demented, stuck in WW2 language. We're a laughing stock to the rest of the World, with a clown for a leader.

Sephiroth · 21-08-2019, 19:06

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And I believe Forest Green Rovers will win the FA Cup this year

Thing is, even without the backstop it's a really crap deal. It leaves us much worse off than if we stayed in the EU, however that now seems to be an irrelevance to true ''believers', any opposition is 'collaboration', being a 'quisling' or 'treachery'. Wake up and listen to the mad, demented, stuck in WW2 language. We're a laughing stock to the rest of the World, with a clown for a leader.

... and a racist wannabe leader.