Brexit

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

And what happened ... nothing (or nearly nothing).

What was the response - what a waste, all that effort and nothing went wrong what a waste vs phew, we did it, nothing went wrong, money well spent.

I am confused.

Are you saing it's a waste because nothing went wrong?

Or you saying people will perceive to have been a waste precisely because nothing went wrong as a result of the problem being addressed?

That confused me too. I think he’s saying different groups of people said one thing or the other about the millennium bug, and different groups of people will likewise say one thing or another about Brexit.

[pip08456]

Countries such as Italy, Russia, and South Korea had done little to prepare for Y2K. They had no more technological problems than those countries, like the U.S., that spent millions of dollars to combat the problem.

Due to the lack of results, many people dismissed the Y2K bug as a hoax or an end-of-the-world cult.

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Y2K was a known problem with a known solution. It isn't a hoax or a myth, it was a programming issue people understand. No one can tell you precisely why some systems were less vulnerable than others without understanding how that system handled dates and the consequences to those systems of the dates being wrong. However anyone who maintained such systems at the turn of the century would have had first-hand knowledge of what they needed to do and what the consequences would have been had they not. There are literally people out there who directly would have seen these things.

The article linked above points out some of the possible problems. The Italy/Russia/South Korean thing is a red-herring since we don't really have an idea of how much software they had to maintain at a state-level rather than using private companies which fixed the issue or working from software written in countries which deployed patches to systems running in those countries.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by pip08456

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Sounds like some country's didn't have a market for snake oil

I worked for a major hotel company at the time, which tested its reservation system and discovered it would just stop working when the date flipped over. There was a real problem that cost time and money to fix. However it was a very well understood problem several years ahead of time so planning and implementing the fix wasn’t the end of the world; not fixing it, however, would have had serious repercussions for a business with global operations employing tens of thousands of people.

Nevertheless there was a Y2K operations room staffed all night of the millennium. It did not have to deal with any problems but that’s because everything had been identified and patched.

[Mr K]

Think this has gone a bit off topic. However don't blame anyone tbh !

[tweetiepooh]

Originally Posted by Damien

I am confused.

Are you saing it's a waste because nothing went wrong?

Or you saying people will perceive to have been a waste precisely because nothing went wrong as a result of the problem being addressed?

I'm saying that after the event some people said it was a waste of time and money. I knew it wasn't as I had to rewrite much of the hospital system I was working on. Fortunately the data store was compliant, just the application needed to add the century. We had to add bits of code to move the epoch so 2 digit years would work also - had to handle past and future dates correctly. We had it ready well before 1999.

Brexit is different but if things go well those who support it will say they said so (in advance) those against will say it would be even better if we remained. If things go badly those who oppose will say told you so, those who support will blame the opposers.

Bit like farmers who are never happy with the weather. Whatever the Brexit outcome some will not be happy.

Topic?

[papa smurf]

Boris 'vows to IGNORE MPs efforts to block No Deal' as poll shows Britain wants Brexit more than ever: 57% now want to leave EU (MORE than at the referendum) and 28% would be happy to crash out


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-leave-EU.html


Boris Johnson will simply steamroller attempts by MPs to block a No Deal Brexit, his allies said today, as a new poll suggested Britain wants to leave the EU more than ever.


So it's 57% v 43% now

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Boris 'vows to IGNORE MPs efforts to block No Deal' as poll shows Britain wants Brexit more than ever: 57% now want to leave EU (MORE than at the referendum) and 28% would be happy to crash out


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-leave-EU.html


Boris Johnson will simply steamroller attempts by MPs to block a No Deal Brexit, his allies said today, as a new poll suggested Britain wants to leave the EU more than ever.


So it's 57% v 43% now

It will be an Article 28 managed Brexit.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It will be an Article 28 managed Brexit.

It sounds like an article two fingers brexit to me.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

It sounds like an article two fingers brexit to me.

I think there are many who will be surprised at how straight forward this turns out to be in the end. A few weeks ago I was castigated on here for ‘falling’ for that Article 28 proposition just because some ‘expert’ remainders said it was impossible and that clearly it couldn’t be done!

Well, Boris will see about that. Look and learn, guys!

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I think there are many who will be surprised at how straight forward this turns out to be in the end. A few weeks ago I was castigated on here for ‘falling’ for that Article 28 proposition just because some ‘expert’ remainders said it was impossible and that clearly it couldn’t be done!

Well, Boris will see about that. Look and learn, guys!

I'm bookmarking this post

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'm bookmarking this post

Please do, and don’t accidentally lose it when it comes to pass!