12-06-2019, 17:41
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
As the note does not say stockpiles cannot be in place by 31st Oct it would be fair to say its a couple or 3 months old.
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The article is from todays FT. I cannot see any journalist sitting on such information for a couple of months, just to break it now.
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12-06-2019, 17:48
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#3362
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Nope still not working.
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You will be ok then. That's all that matters isn't it? Stuff everyone else ..
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12-06-2019, 17:52
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Angua
The article is from todays FT. I cannot see any journalist sitting on such information for a couple of months, just to break it now. |
Yeah, yeah. The article assumes that a 'no deal' Brexit warrants stockpiles of medicines and border checks. Two straight forward solutions to avoid that.
1. Agree with the EU that pending a trade deal, there will be no change to our existing trading arrangements.
2. Apply the Article 24 GATT protection period.
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12-06-2019, 18:09
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
1. Agree with the EU that pending a trade deal, there will be no change to our existing trading arrangements..
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We could call it the transition period.
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12-06-2019, 18:20
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Re: Brexit
MPs have voted down Labour’s attempt to take over parliamentary business and present a bill to outlaw no-deal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48613921
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12-06-2019, 18:31
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by ianch99
You will be ok then. That's all that matters isn't it? Stuff everyone else ..
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12-06-2019, 18:54
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Chris
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No deal, it is, then. What are you waiting for, Boris? Say it like it is!
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12-06-2019, 19:07
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
As the note does not say stockpiles cannot be in place by 31st Oct it would be fair to say its a couple or 3 months old.
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So why on earth would everything be delayed by 3 months? How did we function before we joined EFTA, EEC etc?
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12-06-2019, 19:10
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by nomadking
So why on earth would everything be delayed by 3 months? How did we function before we joined EFTA, EEC etc?
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I didn't say anything would be delayed.
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12-06-2019, 19:13
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
No deal, it is, then. What are you waiting for, Boris? Say it like it is!
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There is no democratic mandate for No Deal. As the whole project was supposed to be about democracy, No Deal is off the menu.
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12-06-2019, 19:20
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Yeah, yeah. The article assumes that a 'no deal' Brexit warrants stockpiles of medicines and border checks. Two straight forward solutions to avoid that.
1. Agree with the EU that pending a trade deal, there will be no change to our existing trading arrangements.
2. Apply the Article 24 GATT protection period.
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Did I miss a point when “straight forward” was redefined to include unworkable? Similar to how literally achieved the additional definition “figuratively”.
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12-06-2019, 19:31
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by ianch99
There is no democratic mandate for No Deal. As the whole project was supposed to be about democracy, No Deal is off the menu.
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Straw man argument.
We live in a Parliamentary democracy, as remainers never tire of telling us these days. The nature of our parliamentary democracy is that members of Parliament are representatives, not delegates or deputies, also as remainers never tire of telling us these days.
If parliament passes legislation that allows for No Deal -as it did in 2017 - and then declines to take control of business in order to repeal that legislation - as it did today - then the actions of our sovereign parliament have created a situation that has all the democratic mandate it requires.
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12-06-2019, 19:44
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Chris
Straw man argument.
We live in a Parliamentary democracy, as remainers never tire of telling us these days. The nature of our parliamentary democracy is that members of Parliament are representatives, not delegates or deputies, also as remainers never tire of telling us these days.
If parliament passes legislation that allows for No Deal -as it did in 2017 - and then declines to take control of business in order to repeal that legislation - as it did today - then the actions of our sovereign parliament have created a situation that has all the democratic mandate it requires.
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What you say here is correct if that can all hold true til November.
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12-06-2019, 19:50
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Chris
Straw man argument.
We live in a Parliamentary democracy, as remainers never tire of telling us these days. The nature of our parliamentary democracy is that members of Parliament are representatives, not delegates or deputies, also as remainers never tire of telling us these days.
If parliament passes legislation that allows for No Deal -as it did in 2017 - and then declines to take control of business in order to repeal that legislation - as it did today - then the actions of our sovereign parliament have created a situation that has all the democratic mandate it requires.
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No straw men here  In the 2017 GE, more people voted for Parties with Anti-No Deal manifestos.
Glad to know that if Parliament reject a No Deal in the coming months, you will wholeheartedly approve.
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12-06-2019, 20:20
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Yeah, yeah. The article assumes that a 'no deal' Brexit warrants stockpiles of medicines and border checks. Two straight forward solutions to avoid that.
1. Agree with the EU that pending a trade deal, there will be no change to our existing trading arrangements.
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"Agree with the EU" is not no deal.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
2. Apply the Article 24 GATT protection period.
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Similarly, Article 24 requires an agreed plan from both parties. Agreed plan is not a no deal.
---------- Post added at 19:13 ---------- Previous post was at 19:11 ----------
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Originally Posted by Damien
We could call it the transition period.
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So, we would be a vassal state then and the EU could keep us there indefinitely?
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Originally Posted by Angua
The article is from todays FT. I cannot see any journalist sitting on such information for a couple of months, just to break it now. |
Not the newspaper, but maybe the leaker could have held it back to the FT until today.
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