Brexit

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Hi OB, where and when was it admitted? Have only been skimming through posts the last few days so could well have missed whatever it is you're quoting.

The "campaign" is called "Brexit Justice". That's sort of a big clue.

He founded Brexit Justice in June 2016 and has been “working relentlessly to bring an end to lying in politics ever since”, according to the Brexit Justice website.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That is not the purpose of this prosection, and this has been admitted.

I don't know if it is or not but the consequences should be better standards.

I think it's poor form if Brexit politicians play the "I can't be held accountable for anything as they're just trying to stop Brexit" card every time they're pulled up on anything.

[Mr K]

Interesting....

Germany will block another delay to Brexit at the European Council unless the UK announces a second referendum or general election by October, the Bundestag's foreign affairs committee chair has warned.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-public-vote/

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Interesting....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-public-vote/

Good for Germany, poking their nose into our internal politics is what is wanted at this time.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Good for Germany, poking their nose into our internal politics is what is wanted at this time.

They have said they will not support an extension unless something has changed - sounds like they are supporting EU politics, the impact of which will be also on British politics.

Who would have thought that any decisions made by one of the parties in negotiations would have an impact on the other?

[nomadking]

Silly question I know, but what makes Germany think that what they say, goes for everybody in the EU?

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Silly question I know, but what makes Germany think that what they say, goes for everybody in the EU?

It doesn't have to go for everybody. If Germany block an extention (any one of the 27 can do so) then they have ensured we leave.

Bring on another Referendum - Brexit Party trounced all the other parties no problem, including Lib Dems who ran on a stop Brexit campaign. They were just short of 2 million votes from Brexit Party.

Peston tweeted a graph before that if the European Election results were repeated at a General Election, Brexit Party would have a Majority government, they would have 414 Seats in Parliament. Bring on GE or bring on Second Referendum, we'll teach these ignorant Remainers that refuse to accept the result that the UK wants to leave and we have not changed our minds and never will!

Becareful what you wish for haha!!!

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status...64912713867265

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

They have said they will not support an extension unless something has changed

Great, all we need then is Parliament to keep functioning as it has been and we will leave in October.

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In regards to Boris, I'm no legal expert but I think there is a major flaw in the prosecution of Boris and that is.........the £350M statement wasn't a lie.

Case closed, my fee will be in the post.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

Bring on another Referendum - Brexit Party trounced all the other parties no problem, including Lib Dems who ran on a stop Brexit campaign. They were just short of 2 million votes from Brexit Party.

Peston tweeted a graph before that if the European Election results were repeated at a General Election, Brexit Party would have a Majority government, they would have 414 Seats in Parliament. Bring on GE or bring on Second Referendum, we'll teach these ignorant Remainers that refuse to accept the result that the UK wants to leave and we have not changed our minds and never will!

Becareful what you wish for haha!!!

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status...64912713867265

I thought we were not supposed to use name calling? I thought we had put Ignorant Remainers and Stupid Leavers behind us ..

Originally Posted by Mick

Bring on another Referendum - Brexit Party trounced all the other parties no problem, including Lib Dems who ran on a stop Brexit campaign. They were just short of 2 million votes from Brexit Party.

Peston tweeted a graph before that if the European Election results were repeated at a General Election, Brexit Party would have a Majority government, they would have 414 Seats in Parliament. Bring on GE or bring on Second Referendum, we'll teach these ignorant Remainers that refuse to accept the result that the UK wants to leave and we have not changed our minds and never will!

Becareful what you wish for haha!!!

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status...64912713867265

Here is the source of the data Robert Peston quoted from.

https://mobile.twitter.com/chrishanr...76766903672832

The author actually states

Chris Hanretty @chrishanretty

But people vote differently in different elections. This is a second order election with a different electorate, different voting system, on different issues, with different parties. I would be surprised if the Brexit Party got four seats in #GE20XX, let alone four hundred

7:01 am · 30 May 2019 · Twitter for Android

From the author’s blog

These figures on their own tell us almost nothing about future general elections. I estimate that the Brexit party won the most votes in over four hundred Westminster constituencies. The Brexit Party will not win four hundred seats in a future general election. European Parliament elections are different from Westminster elections in many ways. The electorate is different, the voting system is different, the parties competing are different, the issues discussed (if any) are different, and the levels of campaign activity and interest are different. If European Parliament elections results were a good guide to subsequent general elections, UKIP would have won scores of seats in 2015 rather than just one.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Mick

Bring on another Referendum - Brexit Party trounced all the other parties no problem, including Lib Dems who ran on a stop Brexit campaign. They were just short of 2 million votes from Brexit Party.

Peston tweeted a graph before that if the European Election results were repeated at a General Election, Brexit Party would have a Majority government, they would have 414 Seats in Parliament. Bring on GE or bring on Second Referendum, we'll teach these ignorant Remainers that refuse to accept the result that the UK wants to leave and we have not changed our minds and never will!

Becareful what you wish for haha!!!

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status...64912713867265

Nice, name calling? I'm not ignorant, I just have a different opinion to you.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Mick

Bring on another Referendum - Brexit Party trounced all the other parties no problem, including Lib Dems who ran on a stop Brexit campaign. They were just short of 2 million votes from Brexit Party.

Peston tweeted a graph before that if the European Election results were repeated at a General Election, Brexit Party would have a Majority government, they would have 414 Seats in Parliament. Bring on GE or bring on Second Referendum, we'll teach these ignorant Remainers that refuse to accept the result that the UK wants to leave and we have not changed our minds and never will!

Becareful what you wish for haha!!!

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status...64912713867265

I'm an ignorant remainer that certainly wishes for it

Originally Posted by Mythica

Nice, name calling? I'm not ignorant, I just have a different opinion to you.

If you wish to ignore the democratic decision from 2016, like "some" Remainers do - then you are ignorant.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Great, all we need then is Parliament to keep functioning as it has been and we will leave in October.

---------- Post added at 15:20 ---------- Previous post was at 15:18 ----------

In regards to Boris, I'm no legal expert but I think there is a major flaw in the prosecution of Boris and that is.........the £350M statement wasn't a lie.

Case closed, my fee will be in the post.

Boris was told repeatedly the figure was wrong by the ONS and to stop saying it. As a responsible public servant, he should have done so.