Brexit - Page 183

pip08456 · 27-05-2019, 00:04

Early days yet as not a lot of results returned but Brexit party showing 38% and labour the nearest at 17%.

**Damien** · 27-05-2019, 00:06

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Early days yet as not a lot of results returned but Brexit party showing 38% and labour the nearest at 17%.

Lib Dems are closer on 21%. Looks like they'll come 2nd. Brexit are on 31% as I write this.

**Mick** · 27-05-2019, 00:10

Change UK have posted 1,542 votes in Broxtowe (Notts). That's Anna Soubry's seat.

Meanwhile, the Brexit Party has won 11,668.

**Damien** · 27-05-2019, 00:11

Change UK also lost the Lib Dems a seat in the North East (if you assume those votes would have gone there)

1andrew1 · 27-05-2019, 00:12

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Originally Posted by nomadking

But there isn't a right to block and/or frustrate a democratic decision.

Would be interesting to do an analysis of the final figures and see how much better the Brexit party figures would be if UKIP had disbanded or not stood. An extra 3/4% might have made a big difference in the number of seats won.

That happens all the time when a new Government is elected. Doubt adding the Ukip votes to the Brexit Party votes will have an effect as the former seems to have been wiped out.

pip08456 · 27-05-2019, 00:16

Forget Cons & Lab this is going to end up between Brexit & LD's.

**Damien** · 27-05-2019, 00:21

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Forget Cons & Lab this is going to end up between Brexit & LD's.

Brexit Party will definitely win. Question is if the Lib Dems will stay ahead of Labour. Greens doing very well too.

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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/sta...71699949228032

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UK: 40% counted.

Hard Brexit parties: 33.8%
Conservatives/Labour: 23.8%
Remain parties: 40.8%

SO FAR.....

Brexit Party will pick up more votes later. The above includes London after all.

papa smurf · 27-05-2019, 00:31

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Originally Posted by Mick

Change UK have posted 1,542 votes in Broxtowe (Notts). That's Anna Soubry's seat.

Meanwhile, the Brexit Party has won 11,668.

Anna who ?

Pierre · 27-05-2019, 00:32

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Originally Posted by Damien

Well that's why the Brexit Party is doing so well but it's still the democratic right for the Liberals to stand against it.

Indeed, at least the LibDems have decided on where they will stand and fight. That’s they’re dong well.

pip08456 · 27-05-2019, 00:35

Brexit 12 seats
LD's 6 seats
Lab 5 Seats
Others (Greens) 3 seats
Cons 2 seats

1andrew1 · 27-05-2019, 00:48

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Originally Posted by Damien

I mean how would Boris react to the Lib Dems doing well in Uxbridge for example?

Despite winning London, and I appreciate you only gave it as a what-if scenario, the Liberal Democrats came third in Uxbridge but were ahead of the Conservatives:

The Brexit Party 19,123
Labour Party 16,788
Liberal Democrats 12,372
Conservative and Unionist Party 8,812
Green Party 5,949
https://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/articl...elections-2019

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Farewell, no-deal Brexit.

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Boris Johnson and Dominic Raab have been warned that Tory MPs would be prepared to bring down any prime minister backing a no-deal Brexit, triggering a general election, amid fears the leadership hopefuls will veer to the right in response to a surge in support for Nigel Farage at the European election.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-backs-no-deal

pip08456 · 27-05-2019, 01:05

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Despite winning London, and I appreciate you only gave it as a what-if scenario, the Liberal Democrats came third in Uxbridge but were ahead of the Conservatives:

The Brexit Party 19,123
Labour Party 16,788
Liberal Democrats 12,372
Conservative and Unionist Party 8,812
Green Party 5,949
https://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/articl...elections-2019

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Farewell, no-deal Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-backs-no-deal

Still dreaming I see.

**Damien** · 27-05-2019, 01:12

I think the result is sort of known now.

Brexit Party have come from nowhere to storm these elections.
Liberal Democrats are probably coming a comfortable second and won London, including Corbyn's own constituency.
Greens have done very well too.
Labour and Tory have had a very bad night. Maybe even worse than expected.
SNP and Plaid Cymru have done well too.

If you want No Deal you can say Brexit trounced the other parties.
If you want Remain you can say that the revoke/referendum parties won more voters than the No Deal parties. (but this might change as the voters come in).
If you want a compromise then good luck.

Best thing is UKIP got 3%. Turns out people don't like edgy YouTubers and embracing the far-right. Brexit voters didn't like that and went elsewhere instead. That's good.

OLD BOY · 27-05-2019, 01:23

Time for Vince Cable to change his party’s name so that it actually describes what it stands for. I would suggest Liberal AntiDemocrats since it is putting forward the notion that the democratic will of the people should be ignored.

**Mick** · 27-05-2019, 02:38

BREAKING: The Brexit Party is the biggest single party in the European Parliament. Bigger even than the German CDU.