25-03-2019, 20:18
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Re: Brexit (New).
Full Fact are a reliable and decent organisation, I would 100% take their number
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25-03-2019, 20:23
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#572
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Re: Brexit (New).
I was in it and certainly felt more than 300k or we must have been funneled in a really tight area to have all people that I seen on Park Lane to walk down to Traf Square
Took us close to 4 hrs due to slow moving traffic
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25-03-2019, 20:26
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#573
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Re: Brexit (New).
l would respect Full Facts opinion personally.
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25-03-2019, 20:57
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#574
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Re: Brexit (New).
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25-03-2019, 22:19
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit (New).
Tone deaf, or what?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-p...ments-47696409 (@19:57)
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Influential Brexiteers who attended talks at Chequers with the Prime Minister yesterday met again today.
The group, including Iain Duncan Smith, Steve Baker, Dominic Raab and Boris Johnson are understood to have had further discussions on whether to back the Prime Minister’s deal, including the option of her departure in return for votes.
It’s understood some involved want her to make a public commitment to set a timetable for departure because there is ‘such a problem of trust’.
The group, which some insiders have branded the ‘grand wizards’, are understood not to have reached any final conclusions and are involved in ongoing talks with Brexiteers and Number 10.
One of those present said: ‘There are no firm commitments - the jelly keeps getting nailed to the wall again, then you find it’s fallen on the floor’.
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Until this story hit the interwebtubes, the top Google listing for Grand Wizards was this
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25-03-2019, 22:59
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#576
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Re: Brexit (New).
They’re robbing the people of their referendum. Politicians made false promises. The dream will not be realised. I feel for everyone who invested so much energy. I wish they could have seen it sooner and acted upon it.
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25-03-2019, 22:59
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Re: Brexit (New).
MP's voting on Letwin amendment
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Confirmed: Business minister Richard Harrington has resigned from Government over Brexit indicative votes
Last edited by Dave42; 25-03-2019 at 23:04.
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25-03-2019, 23:05
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Re: Brexit (New).
Amazing that four days before the due date of Brexit, there has been no decision on the form that Brexit will take. Maybe simplest thing is to revoke Article 50 and revisit in 40 years' time and do things properly then!
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25-03-2019, 23:14
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Amazing that four days before the due date of Brexit, there has been no decision on the form that Brexit will take. Maybe simplest thing is to revoke Article 50 and revisit in 40 years' time and do things properly then!
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date is officially 12th April now in International law or 22nd May if May gets deal passed
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1 minister voted against government according to sky just now
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Letwin amendment won 329 to 302 majority 27
Last edited by Dave42; 25-03-2019 at 23:12.
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25-03-2019, 23:14
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit (New).
Letwin’s Cross-party motion wins 329-302.
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25-03-2019, 23:14
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Re: Brexit (New).
Government loses by a bigger margin that expected. Parliament 'takes control' although I am not clear what that means in practise since they can't force the government to do something. They will be able to do indicative votes now.
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25-03-2019, 23:17
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by Damien
Government loses by a bigger margin that expected. Parliament 'takes control' although I am not clear what that means in practise since they can't force the government to do something. They will be able to do indicative votes now.
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softer Brexit incoming
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25-03-2019, 23:18
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Re: Brexit (New).
I’m now certain that Brexit will not happen.
It’s shocking, but we have a chamber of liars that voted to enact A50, but now will not. No idea were this end, but it wont be with us leaving the EU anytime soon, if at all.
Remain will win. Democracy will be sidelined.
Far right parties will rise, and everybody will naval gaze and wonder why?
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25-03-2019, 23:20
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Remoaner
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Re: Brexit (New).
By the way this is entirely because the stupidity in being dishonest last week. They survived a similar vote by promising the government would table their own motion for indicative votes and then May turned around with the proposal for a deadline extension only if Parliament voted for her deal and no meaningful vote. If she had kept to the promise then she wouldn't be in this mess. She tried it again today by saying the government would allow time for it if they didn't vote for this amendment but whose going to believe she means it this time?
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25-03-2019, 23:20
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#585
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Re: Brexit (New).
3 ministers resigned to vote against government
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