Brexit

Originally Posted by jfman

We can safely say the funding wouldn’t happen then as Conservative ideology reduces the size of state spending even further.

Rubbish. As with every argument you’ve expressed lately. It’s flawed.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

There may be a saving in paper in membership fees, depending on the deal we strike with the EU, assuming we leave.
But the reduction in GDP from leaving is unfortunately likely to more than wipe any savings out.

Another flawed reply. Don’t know if you’v noticed but other Member States financial status isn’t looking rosey right now and they’re still members of the corrupted EU.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mick

Rubbish. As with every argument you’ve expressed lately. It’s flawed.

The Conservatives plan to cut public spending to 37.8% of GDP by 2022. It’s a fact that reducing the size of the state, and increasing privatisation, is Conservative ideology.

I appreciate we disagree over the direction of Brexit but that ones just a fact. It doesn’t require a crystal ball.

We should have a clearer idea on my Brexit predictions this week, and certainly by April 13th.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Another flawed reply. Don’t know if you’v noticed but other Member States financial status isn’t looking rosey right now and they’re still members of the corrupted EU.

I'm unsure as to whether you're trying to respond to the point I've made or someone else's, as none of the above is remotely relevant to mine.

[denphone]

l thought this was a good tweet this morning from Nick Robinson.

Cabinet faces a crucial choice this morning. Prepare for No Deal (leading to multiple resignations) OR prepare for softer Brexit (leading to multiple resignations) OR have another long inconclusive meeting (leading to anonymous briefings blaming PM, MPs, ERG, Remainers..etc)

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

l thought this was a good tweet this morning from Nick Robinson.

Agree, neatly sums the situation up! I suspect the third thing will happen, ie long and inconclusive.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

l thought this was a good tweet this morning from Nick Robinson.

That cheered up my Monday morning!

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Damien

The idea the EU plays grant money for University places wasn't part of any Remain campaign I've seen. The EU does pay scientific grant money, i.e for research, and that obviously is unlikely to continue for new projects.

Yep, talk to my niece who now no longer has a job as she was involved in an EU project and will not be considered for project grants going forward as they are only open to EU members. Ph.D. educated scientist with no job prospects due to no grant money

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

I knew Sky News were bad, but two years...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37896977

The Government seem to prefer the term 'EU Exit':

https://www.gov.uk/prepare-eu-exit

[jfman]

Well, that’s proper use of language I suppose. If I could go back and shoot whoever coined the term “Grexit” from which “Brexit” derives I probably would.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...xit?CMP=twt_gu

In an information notice, the commission confirmed that UK nationals would have the right to visa-free travel for short stays in the EU (90 days in any 180-day period), if the UK grants the same arrangement to citizens of all EU member states. “Your passport will be stamped both when you enter the EU and when you leave it, so that this period of 90 days, which is visa-free, can be calculated.”

In another return to the past, British travellers may be asked by border guards to provide information on the purpose of their visit and means of subsistence during their stay. Luggage would be subject to customs checks.

No deal would also mean the return of duty-free and the right of British travellers to claim a refund of VAT paid on goods during their stay in the EU, provided they have the right documents.

The commission also confirmed British travellers would lose their right to access healthcare through the European health insurance card, and phone companies would no longer be obliged to waive roaming charges for British travellers in the EU.

[Carth]

In an information notice, the commission confirmed that UK nationals would have the right to visa-free travel for short stays in the EU (90 days in any 180-day period), if the UK grants the same arrangement to citizens of all EU member states. “Your passport will be stamped both when you enter the EU and when you leave it, so that this period of 90 days, which is visa-free, can be calculated.”

In another return to the past, British travellers may be asked by border guards to provide information on the purpose of their visit and means of subsistence during their stay. Luggage would be subject to customs checks.

No deal would also mean the return of duty-free and the right of British travellers to claim a refund of VAT paid on goods during their stay in the EU, provided they have the right documents.

The commission also confirmed British travellers would lose their right to access healthcare through the European health insurance card, and phone companies would no longer be obliged to waive roaming charges for British travellers in the EU.

whoohoo . . . brilliant excuse to stay in the EU . . especially for those families that might manage (if they're frugal) to spend a week in Benidorm every year and not care about the other 51 weeks spent living at home

Of course if you're lucky enough to afford 3 or 4 foreign holidays a year it looks different . . unless you prefer more exotic places than Europe

1) Meaningful vote not coming back yet
2) May says No Deal will not happen if Parliament doesn't want it (not sure how that'll be enforced)

[Dave42]

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Hillary Benn just asked her whether by April 12 she will got for No Deal or extension. She says she wants her deal but in statement appeared to rule out No Deal unless MPs vote. So now the option seems to be “My Deal or Slow Brexit”

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Originally Posted by Damien

1) Meaningful vote not coming back yet
2) May says No Deal will not happen if Parliament doesn't want it (not sure how that'll be enforced)

extra extension by sounds of it

[denphone]

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Hillary Benn just asked her whether by April 12 she will got for No Deal or extension. She says she wants her deal but in statement appeared to rule out No Deal unless MPs vote. So now the option seems to be “My Deal or Slow Brexit”

The omnishambles continues unabated..

Full fact just announced: ”Many readers asked us to check the claim that 1 million people attended the People's Vote march on Saturday.

Almost certainly not. Experts in crowd modelling told @WiredUK they estimated the figure was somewhere between 312,000 and 400,000.”