18-03-2019, 18:42
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#8821
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Brexit
One could argue it’s the Prime Minister playing games. She knows Parliamentary procedure.
We did want our sovereignty back after all.
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18-03-2019, 18:45
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#8822
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Chris
Yes, the weakness of May's government is ultimately what has allowed Bercow to slip his leash. Their only power over him is to deny him a peerage, and I won't be surprised if he's been quietly warned about that already. But if he has been so warned, it doesn't seem to have worked.
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Well, a future government of a different party could still award him a peerage, so not much of a threat...
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Maybe there's some 400 year old law that can be used to finish him off?
I just can't believe he's playing these games at such an important time in the country's history.
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Unlike the ERG and the DUP?
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18-03-2019, 18:49
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#8823
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Well, a future government of a different party could still award him a peerage, so not much of a threat...
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Unlike the ERG and the DUP?
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Since when did DUP, ERG chair the Commons or use procedural conventions when it suits ?
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18-03-2019, 18:51
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#8824
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
Since when did DUP, ERG chair the Commons or use procedural conventions when it suits ?
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I didn’t say they had.
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18-03-2019, 19:15
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#8825
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
I didn’t say they had.
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I read it as your suggesting that the DUP and ERG are playing games too. 
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Loved (?) The Solicitor-General’s comment
How would the EU do that, then - mind-reading?
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Unbelievable! Looks like the UK wants the EU to solve every constitutional hiccup it encounters. Not sure if this fully ticks the box of "taking back control".
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18-03-2019, 19:24
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#8826
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
I didn’t say they had.
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Clue, they can’t because they are not the chair and neither have they playing games!
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18-03-2019, 19:35
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#8827
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Re: Brexit
I think the fact that the Speaker had to remind the Government of the correct Parliamentary procedure just show how past its sell by date it had become.
We have come to a point where we are governed by self-serving idiots with an opposition made up of, well, just idiots.
The political landscape is wide open for a new, centrist, social democratic party led by someone with (some) charisma and no baggage. Pity no such person exists 
Even if we had such a new party, I doubt if the electorate has the imagination to vote it into power ..
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18-03-2019, 19:38
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#8828
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
I was talking about her position being untenable and resigning, but she’s been at this stage like, forever.
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yes she could of course resign cant see her doing it though
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18-03-2019, 19:41
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#8829
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Dave42
yes she could of course resign cant see her doing it though
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She won't resign Dave l can assure you.
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18-03-2019, 19:53
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Rise above the players
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Chris
The Speaker of the House of Commons is a bloody powerful individual, it's just that circumstances are rarely so dire as to give the one who holds the office the opportunity to make maximum mischief. Much of what he can do rests on convention rather than statute but the problem there is that just about everything the Commons does is based on convention, and the Speaker is the final arbiter of how convention applies. There is no way to appeal any decision he makes. So if you are saddled with a Speaker who is prepared to pick and choose which conventions he will uphold, there's very little that can be done, short of having Her Maj send him to the Tower to relieve his shoulders of the burden of supporting his enormous head.
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Can I formally nominate that to be the Cable Forum quote of the year? 
Last edited by OLD BOY; 18-03-2019 at 19:57.
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18-03-2019, 19:56
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#8831
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Re: Brexit
That said in theory few in Parliament should be upset by this since it was rejected pretty strongly, the MPs now complaining about having voted it down last time on the assumption it could be brought back are idiots.
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18-03-2019, 19:58
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#8832
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Re: Brexit
I think that the Palace of Westminster should be renamed Fawlty Towers
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18-03-2019, 20:12
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#8833
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
That said in theory few in Parliament should be upset by this since it was rejected pretty strongly, the MPs now complaining about having voted it down last time on the assumption it could be brought back are idiots.
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They’re also admitting quite openly to be playing games with the country that would benefit from certainty.
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18-03-2019, 20:20
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#8834
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
They’re also admitting quite openly to be playing games with the country that would benefit from certainty.
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It's shown them up for what they are and proves Hugh's point in #8822 spot on!
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18-03-2019, 20:30
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#8835
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Rise above the players
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Re: Brexit
The chances of a no deal Brexit seem to have shot up.
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