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jfman · 31-01-2019, 13:26

Whether Italy is in recession or not is irrelevant really. The European project has seen recessions come and go.

Mythica · 31-01-2019, 13:56

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Nope that is an absolutely appalling solution - we have already had a referendum on leaving the EU. We do not need another, as I keep saying. It would be an affront to Democracy to keep re-running the same vote again and again because people's selected choice does not go their way. We also do not want to see the reunification of Northern Ireland with Ireland, we would see troubles similar to IRA, all over the place that were common in the 80's and 90's, I cannot believe you were seriously advocating such a disgraceful solution.

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It was not that long ago that the corrupted bullies in the EU were trying to enforce Italy to change it's 2019 Budget, yes the corrupted and cancerous Union dictating to it's member State what to do with it's own money and people here, want us to stay with these disgusting and corrupted power hungry fools in the EU.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45954022

Have you ever thought some people don't want a second referendum because it didn't go their way but rather they changed their mind based on what's happening?

RichardCoulter · 31-01-2019, 13:58

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Originally Posted by Carth

One hopes that the bar has enough alcohol stock to cover the period, it would be awful for them if they couldn't have their drink while at work

...or a cigarette in their private bar. Meanwhile, other smokers are required to stand outside in the cold.

Carth · 31-01-2019, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Mythica

Have you ever thought some people don't want a second referendum because it didn't go their way but rather they changed their mind based on what's happening?

Tell me you're not treating this like someone who buys a car, then a week later wants their money back because they 'changed their mind'

Mythica · 31-01-2019, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Carth

Tell me you're not treating this like someone who buys a car, then a week later wants their money back because they 'changed their mind'

There is a problem there. It's been much longer than a week and brexit is much more important than a car.

papa smurf · 31-01-2019, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Mythica

Have you ever thought some people don't want a second referendum because it didn't go their way but rather they changed their mind based on what's happening?

Wasn't it billed as a once in a life time vote?

heero_yuy · 31-01-2019, 14:17

That was before the public voted the "wrong" way.

jfman · 31-01-2019, 14:17

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Wasn't it billed as a once in a life time vote?

No-one can legally, or morally, bind the future in this way regardless of however circumstances change.

**Hugh** · 31-01-2019, 14:41

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

...or a cigarette in their private bar. Meanwhile, other smokers are required to stand outside in the cold.

Not true - smoking is banned in the Houses of Parliament (there is a bar called "The Members Smoking Room", but the name is historic and no one can smoke in there).

https://publications.parliament.uk/p...07032046000005

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The Health Act 2006 introduces a ban on smoking in workplaces and enclosed or substantially enclosed public places from 1 July 2007. While the Act does not formally apply on the parliamentary estate, the Commission, on the advice of the Administration Committee, has decided that the House should comply with the principles of the legislation, as it is not desirable that those who work on or visit the parliamentary estate should be treated differently in this respect from those in other workplaces and public places. The Commission recognises, however, that many who work on the estate are unavoidably present for long periods, particularly when the House is sitting. It is therefore desirable to make reasonable provision for those who wish to smoke to do so, provided that the health and safety of other users of the estate is not adversely affected.

With these principles in mind, the Commission has decided that smoking should cease to be permitted from 1 July 2007 in all internal areas of the House of Commons estate, including in bars and private offices. From that date smoking will, however, be permitted in four designated external areas: the Terrace, Commons Court (North West corner), North Terrace (between Portcullis House and Norman Shaw South), and in a designated area on the west side of Canon Row courtyard. Cigarette receptacles will be provided in these areas. “No Smoking” signs will be displayed at entrances to the buildings. I understand that the House of Lords Administration and Works Committee will report its recommendations shortly on the smoking policy for the Lords part of the parliamentary estate.

Angua · 31-01-2019, 14:50

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Originally Posted by Carth

Tell me you're not treating this like someone who buys a car, then a week later wants their money back because they 'changed their mind'

I have done exactly this. Chap was very obliging and understood why I wanted to return the car and gave me my money back.

Just like changing my mind over Brexit or which party to vote for in an Election. Perfectly reasonable reasons to change ones mind.

1andrew1 · 31-01-2019, 14:51

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

That was before the public voted the "wrong" way.

That's yet to happen. It might do if the ERG continue to push their luck and a general election is called though.

papa smurf · 31-01-2019, 16:37

Germany BLOW as retail sales PLUMMET - Eurozone nervy after WEAK forecast

In the latest raft of economic woes to his Europe’s largest economy, retail sales were revealed to have fallen by 4.3 percent on the month in December. The gloomy figure, released by the state statistics office, marks the fastest rate of decline in 11 years. Sales also fell by 2.1 percent year-on-year, Germany's Federal Statistics Office said in a statement, marking the biggest slump since a 3 percent fall in September...

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/ci...urope-eurozone

jfman · 31-01-2019, 18:28

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Germany BLOW as retail sales PLUMMET - Eurozone nervy after WEAK forecast

In the latest raft of economic woes to his Europe’s largest economy, retail sales were revealed to have fallen by 4.3 percent on the month in December. The gloomy figure, released by the state statistics office, marks the fastest rate of decline in 11 years. Sales also fell by 2.1 percent year-on-year, Germany's Federal Statistics Office said in a statement, marking the biggest slump since a 3 percent fall in September...

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/ci...urope-eurozone

I’m not 100% certain this is something to be pleased about regardless of whether we are inside or outside the EU. 44% of our exports go to the EU.

The whole capitalist house of cards is about to fall again. Chinese growth is falling, UK and US growth expected to follow.

Sephiroth · 31-01-2019, 18:39

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Originally Posted by jfman

Whether Italy is in recession or not is irrelevant really. The European project has seen recessions come and go.

... but there’s nothing left in the Euro kitty if Italy does a Greece.

heero_yuy · 31-01-2019, 18:42

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I’m not 100% certain this is something to be pleased about regardless of whether we are inside or outside the EU. 44% of our exports go to the EU.

The whole capitalist house of cards is about to fall again. Chinese growth is falling, UK and US growth expected to follow.

You (conveniently) forget the Amsterdam effect so considerably less of those exports ACTUALLY go into the EU but are transshipped world wide.