16-01-2019, 17:46
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
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So you think we will leave with a deal.
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16-01-2019, 17:49
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
So you think we will leave with a deal.
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Nope, I think at some point May will blink, Article 50 will be delayed and then it will go to a 2nd referendum. From there however all bets are off.
EDIT: and to add to that, the result must be accepted, regardless of the result.
Now we have some exposure of how a deal would work, we have an idea of how no deal would work. and of course we know what happens if we remain.
There can be no complaints this time from remain supporters. if there were to be a deal or no deal majority.
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16-01-2019, 17:54
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Nope, I think at some point May will blink, Article 50 will be delayed and then it will go to a 2nd referendum. From there however all bets are off.
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My take as well ..
Although there is a chance of the EU giving way enough (on the backstop) to appease enough doubters to get her amended deal over the line. A long shot since it lost by 200 ..
One thing I do like is that MP's get to vote on a deal until they get it right where the country only gets one go ... 
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16-01-2019, 18:00
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Although there is a chance of the EU giving way enough (on the backstop) to appease enough doubters to get her amended deal over the line. A long shot since it lost by 200 ..
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But they won't do that unless or until the UK Government and Parliament can actually pick and agree on what they want.
Currently there is no amended proposal - or any other agreed proposal.
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16-01-2019, 18:28
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Sorry, there is no mandate for No Deal. Not in the House and not from the Leave campaign:
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We could have done that, but after the vote the EU said that they would not entertain any negotiations until Article 50 had been triggered. So I agree, that was a statement they could not back up as they couldn't speak for the other side.
And subsequently EU said they will not entertain any negotiations on a new deal until the withdrawal agreement is signed off.
So doubly wrong.
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16-01-2019, 18:52
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Re: Brexit
It was pretty obvious at the time as well that the EU would not enter negotiations until article 50 was triggered as the deadline gave them leverage. Whereas waiting until we were happy with the talks would give us leverage as we could hold article 50 over their heads throughout, causing as much uncertainty as possible.
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16-01-2019, 19:06
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by ianch99
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I can see the sarcasm was lost on both of you.
I'll use a smiley after to indicate next time.
The result of the referendum was leave.
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16-01-2019, 19:20
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
I can see the sarcasm was lost on both of you.
I'll use a smiley after to indicate next time.
The result of the referendum was leave.
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Indeed, but you didn't specify how... you allowed the politicians to choose how it should be done. Any argument otherwise is revisionist.
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16-01-2019, 19:25
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Pierre
We could have done that, but after the vote the EU said that they would not entertain any negotiations until Article 50 had been triggered. So I agree, that was a statement they could not back up as they couldn't speak for the other side.
And subsequently EU said they will not entertain any negotiations on a new deal until the withdrawal agreement is signed off.
So doubly wrong.
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People voted leave swayed by various different claims from the Leave campaign.
The fact these promises were not possible under the Treaty of Rome EU rules, seems to have been ignored in an effort to sell the Leave dream.
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16-01-2019, 20:07
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Re: Brexit
A new buzz word has surfaced today 'Brino'- Brexit in name only.
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16-01-2019, 20:14
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
A new buzz word has surfaced today 'Brino'- Brexit in name only.
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JRM, the Honourable Member for the 18th Century, first used that phrase in January 18.
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16-01-2019, 20:16
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Re: Brexit
May wins no confidence vote.
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16-01-2019, 20:31
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
May wins no confidence vote.
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was never gonna lose it
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16-01-2019, 20:33
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
May wins no confidence vote.
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Only by 19 votes... I demand a second vote!
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16-01-2019, 20:36
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Dave42
was never gonna lose it
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Exactly as turkeys don't vote for Christmas do they.
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