Brexit (Old)

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Has Juncker blinked?

https://www.ft.com/content/979bf172-...1-4ff78404524e

This seems to be the 'clarification' that was speculated on a while back. An exchange of letters highlighting the better parts of the deal for May as well as some political language that expresses a joint desire for the backstop to be limited. I think the government hopes that the letters can be pointed at as both the better parts of the deal but also as material for any future legal challenge should the EU not agree to end the backstop in future.

It's not changing the deal itself though.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

But the 17.4 million brexiter majority who came first in the voting result aren't asking for a repeat referendum, it's the minority remainers that came in second that are demanding it as some kind of right.

You don't know what 17.4 million people want though.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mythica

You don't know what 17.4 million people want though.

They voted to leave so i think i do.

Did some of you have a memory lapse within the space of a day?

I have just removed several silly posts.

Warning sent only yesterday....

Originally Posted by Paul M

The continuation of the childish behavior, and attacking each other, will not be tolerated.
Since Christmas is now over, the Sanity Clause will be extended as a kind of Winter Break instead.

Anyone who continues to act in a childish manner will get a "timeout".
You will be suspended from any posting for 1 day (first time), then 3 days, then a week.
Should you not learn after 3 timeouts, a fourth time will see you banned from Cable Forum.

Note: This applies across the forum, not just this topic.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

They voted to leave so i think i do.

Doesn't mean you know if they've changed their mind or not.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Damien

This seems to be the 'clarification' that was speculated on a while back. An exchange of letters highlighting the better parts of the deal for May as well as some political language that expresses a joint desire for the backstop to be limited. I think the government hopes that the letters can be pointed at as both the better parts of the deal but also as material for any future legal challenge should the EU not agree to end the backstop in future.

It's not changing the deal itself though.

exactly it not legal text so cant see it making much difference at all

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Hopefully- whichever side we voted, nobody should want an outcome which hurts the UK.

An outcome that hurts the U.K. least in the short to medium term.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Pierre

An outcome that hurts the U.K. least in the short to medium term.

I don't understand this comment.

You regularly say that the 17.4 million knew what they voted for but none of them were told "vote Leave and we will hurt the U.K. at least in the short term and also probably the medium term as well"?

So this scenario is definitely off the agenda then. We can only leave with No Deal if it fulfils the pledges of the Leave campaign. That is, after all, what you voted for, right?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I don't understand this comment.

You regularly say that the 17.4 million knew what they voted for but none of them were told "vote Leave and we will hurt the U.K. at least in the short term and also probably the medium term as well"?

So this scenario is definitely off the agenda then. We can only leave with No Deal if it fulfils the pledges of the Leave campaign. That is, after all, what you voted for, right?

Were you sleeping at the height of project fear mk1

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

This seems to be the 'clarification' that was speculated on a while back. An exchange of letters highlighting the better parts of the deal for May as well as some political language that expresses a joint desire for the backstop to be limited. I think the government hopes that the letters can be pointed at as both the better parts of the deal but also as material for any future legal challenge should the EU not agree to end the backstop in future.

It's not changing the deal itself though.

At the end of the day, May has a little more than she did last year. Whether it's enough to sway the vote, time will tell, but she can say she's tried. Junker can also face up to his stakeholders in the event of a no-deal Brexit and say he went the extra kilometre to try and prevent it happening.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Were you sleeping at the height of project fear mk1

I think ianch99 meant none of them were told by the Leave Campaigns.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think ianch99 meant none of them were told by the Leave Campaigns.

Thank you Andrew ..

In view of the warnings about a hard brexit who is stockpiling and what are you stockpiling?

I'm not sure whether to do so as lack of space will be my issue. I just hope that the medication I'm prescribed will still be available.I'm already having trouble with one product..

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

In view of the warnings about a hard brexit who is stockpiling and what are you stockpiling?

I'm not sure whether to do so as lack of space will be my issue. I just hope that the medication I'm prescribed will still be available.I'm already having trouble with one product..

I always stockpile tinned/preserved and dried food at this time of year ready to stock up the food cupboards on my boat so if we have shortages i'll be semi prepared,and there's
always rabbits /pigeons etc to shoot.

i think i have most of the country's supply of lamb chops in the freezer

Originally Posted by ianch99

I don't understand this comment.

You regularly say that the 17.4 million knew what they voted for but none of them were told "vote Leave and we will hurt the U.K. at least in the short term and also probably the medium term as well"?

So this scenario is definitely off the agenda then. We can only leave with No Deal if it fulfils the pledges of the Leave campaign. That is, after all, what you voted for, right?

Erm yes it was said there could be issues, it was still worth the risk because I wanted to leave the totally corrupted EU. 90% of the World Future Trade growth, sounds a lot better than a declining 10% economic bubble, that will be the EU.

However, Pierre has repeatedly stated he voted Remain. But unlike you, respects the Democratic result.

[jfman]

Article 50 will need extended even if Theresa May wins the vote.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8723281.html

The government must pass a series of bills including those relating to trade, immigration and agriculture to ensure the country has the legislative framework in place come Brexit day.