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**Maggy** · 08-01-2019, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Damien

No she doesn't 'deserve all she gets'. She is an elected MP and we settle these things by elections. Not intimidation, rape threats and abuse. You can't go on about democracy all the time and advocate intimation and threats as a method of political action, that's not democracy it's thuggery.

No one does. It matters not which side of the political divide of any issue an MP is on. Plus I'm getting sick of the whataboutism that gets offered as an excuse. It's wrong whatever your political affiliations happen to be.

**Damien** · 08-01-2019, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Mick

More fake outrage - seen enough of it - as I said I have no sympathy for her at all. I was not aware of the Rape threats, so do not levy that at me, I am on about Anna being shouted outside parliament and being called a liar and a Nazi.

It's suddenly not okay to call the other side a Nazi, dear me, when people on the right and Brexiteers themselves have been associated with such a term since the leave result.

It's not 'fake outrage', it's me objecting to these thugs. As for the rape threats these are the kind of people we're dealing with.

The police need to stop MPs, or anyone else frankly, being surrounded and hassled like that. it's a big security risk for a start. It's an unacceptable way to behave.

nomadking · 08-01-2019, 10:17

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Originally Posted by jfman

I’d go as far as nothing illegal. However Farage’s statement and the public exit poll manipulated the market.

It was the Remain side that said that the pound would drop if the vote was for leave.

What people seem to forget is that the markets will turn a particular direction if enough people are convinced that a particular event will cause the market to turn in that direction. If the pound is thought to go down in the near future, then they are "forced" to sell in order to get the best price before it drops further. That selling is the thing that drops the price and NOTHING ELSE.
Eg On Black Wednesday when the UK was forced out of the ERM, the German Bundesbank, the BBC etc were determined to have the Pound devalued. That triggered a run of selling of the Pound which caused the value to drop. There was no real devaluation, only the fear of it being devalued.

After any fall they simply buy back what they sold for a cheaper price. They make profits out if it.

papa smurf · 08-01-2019, 10:18

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Originally Posted by denphone

Utterly reprehensible.

https://news.sky.com/story/anna-soub...ament-11601496

Probably her own constituents unhappy at her brexit stance.

**Mick** · 08-01-2019, 10:20

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's not 'fake outrage', it's me objecting to these thugs. As for the rape threats these are the kind of people we're dealing with.

The police need to stop MPs, or anyone else frankly, being surrounded and hassled like that. it's a big security risk for a start. It's an unacceptable way to behave.

Stop going on about the rape threats, that is a separate issue and totally unacceptable - as for people urling and shouting at MPs, it happens all the time.

So you are objecting to this behaviour - Right, so where the hell was your objections when JRM and his kids were targeted ?

I saw nothing said by you back then when that happened, that I recall, I stand to be corrected if you did.

denphone · 08-01-2019, 10:20

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's not 'fake outrage', it's me objecting to these thugs. As for the rape threats these are the kind of people we're dealing with.

The police need to stop MPs, or anyone else frankly, being surrounded and hassled like that. it's a big security risk for a start. It's an unacceptable way to behave.

Indeed If another Jo Cox happens there is nothing whatsoever fake about that..

**Mick** · 08-01-2019, 10:23

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Probably her own constituents unhappy at her brexit stance.

She is on a wafer thin majority, less than 900 votes.

denphone · 08-01-2019, 10:23

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Originally Posted by Mick

Stop going on about the rape threats, that is a separate issue and totally unacceptable - as for people urling and shouting at MPs, it happens all the time.

So you are objecting to this behaviour - Right, so where the hell was your objections when JRM and his kids were targeted ?

I saw nothing said by you back then when that happened, that I recall, I stand to be corrected if you did.

Whether its left or right or someone who supports Brexit or does not there is no place for any type of abuse whatsoever.

**Mick** · 08-01-2019, 10:24

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's not 'fake outrage', it's me objecting to these thugs. As for the rape threats these are the kind of people we're dealing with.

The police need to stop MPs, or anyone else frankly, being surrounded and hassled like that. it's a big security risk for a start. It's an unacceptable way to behave.

Come to think about it, where was your outrage back when Hugh was joking about shooting dead six MPs, all Brexiteers ???

denphone · 08-01-2019, 10:25

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Probably her own constituents unhappy at her brexit stance.

If her constituents are unhappy then there is a ballot box to show their displeasure at her don't you agree?..

**Damien** · 08-01-2019, 10:27

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Originally Posted by Mick

Stop going on about the rape threats, that is a separate issue and totally unacceptable - as for people urling and shouting at MPs, it happens all the time.

So you are objecting to this behaviour - Right, so where the hell was your objections when JRM and his kids were targeted ?

I saw nothing said by you back then when that happened, that I recall, I stand to be corrected if you did.

It's not the a different issue, it's the same people.

And here I where I called the people abusing Mogg and his kids a horrible little group: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...3#post35963023

jfman · 08-01-2019, 10:30

It’s apparent that Brexit has caused the poisonous underclass to believe they can act outside the law.

**Mick** · 08-01-2019, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's not the a different issue, it's the same people.

And here I where I called the people abusing Mogg and his kids a horrible little group: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...3#post35963023

That's fair enough, like I said, happy to be stand corrected, be it a small outcry back then - probably why I missed it.

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Originally Posted by jfman

It’s apparent that Brexit has caused the poisonous underclass to believe they can act outside the law.

It was like this way before Brexit, but trust you to blame the cause on something you totally disagree with.

**Chris** · 08-01-2019, 10:36

So this morning politicians and the BBC are finally dropping the rhetoric and admitting clearly that Parliament cannot stop Brexit occurring in March whether or not there’s a deal. Former Labour minister Yvette Cooper seems to think that good old fashioned civil war era brinkmanship is the way to deal with this - her wheeze is to propose an amendment to the finance bill (which enacts the budget), constraining some of the government’s tax raising powers in the event of a ‘no deal’, unless Parliament has explicitly authorised it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46789565

denphone · 08-01-2019, 10:36

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Originally Posted by jfman

It’s apparent that Brexit has caused the poisonous underclass to believe they can act outside the law.

There has always been some hate and abuse there in society and there always has been but one you let the genie fully out of the bottle then that is a different thing altogether.