Brexit (Old)

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Angua

With Brexiteer Corbyn in charge I would not hold my breath. You could choke on your popcorn sadly.

He could have compromised some of his more extreme views and made hay in this situation.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Angua

With Brexiteer Corbyn in charge I would not hold my breath. You could choke on your popcorn sadly.

He is the only opposition leader to walk away from open goal opportunities.

He can’t control his MPs though.

Backing austerity 2 over a 2nd referendum would finish him. May is going anyway, and a half decent front bench Conservative (I know, I know) would annihilate his socialist dream in the polls.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by handyman

He could have compromised some of his more extreme views and made hay in this situation.

Nah! That would have upset Momentum.

[Ramrod]

Those behind May are the same people who brooked no opposition by pushing through the last bombing of Syria while Parliament was in recess, and then invented spurious arguments about constitutional probity. They are the same people who have been feeding madder and madder fear lies to a willing media set over the last two years, while bankrolling new pro-EU Parties across the board. Among their number are Soros, Macron, the Bourses, globalist business, central banks, multinational banks, international news media, intelligence agencies and the oil kings. Together, they have convinced both the City, the Financial Times and senior spokespeople among the CBI that they shall be part of the Promised Land flowing with silk and money.

It looks increasingly likely that these are the people giving Theresa May her air of invincibiliy, and the Tory Whips everything they need to have confidence in the passage of an EU/UK deal.

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[jfman]

There’s definitely dark forces afoot. If I’m certain of one thing it’s that Brexit won’t mean Brexit.

[Ramrod]

Over the last few weeks, she has worked among and with senior EU, Whitehall, MI5 and NATO officials. One by one, Raab, the DUP and the Cabinet have been starved of information and presented with sudden leaps. Ministers have resigned, their replacements given only honorary power, and all talk of renegotiating anything with the EU has been declared off-message. Alone in Brussels, Olly Robbins is mapping out a detailed deconstruction of British sovereignty with zero accountability. Everyone but the members of this group – which is determined that, come what may, the EU must not fail, that the EU shall have its army, and that NATO will tighten its grip on Russian aims – has been frozen out.

The ERG still don't seem to have the numbers yet. Odd they seemed so confident.

[Dave42]

according to Robert Peston the deal with tories and DUP close to being ripped up general election more likely

https://twitter.com/Peston

[jfman]

And we edge closer to the sum total of the Nationalist/Republican votes outnumbering the Unionist/Loyalist votes. That’d be fun.

[denphone]

What complete and utter chaos but if we have had 2 years of it then a few months more will make any difference...

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by denphone

What complete and utter chaos but if we have had 2 years of it then a few months more will make any difference...

a leave vote was always gonna be chaos as both main parties split very bad Den and no plan for leave at all

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Dave42

a leave vote was always gonna be chaos as both main parties split very bad Den and no plan for leave at all

Well if they can't even organise a piss up in a brewery then there ain't much hope of warring politicians ever coming up with a cohesive well thought out plan.

Originally Posted by handyman

Rarely come to the forum and this is a fine example of why I stay away.

Wielding your tiny amount of 'power' threatening to ban members who disagree with you so that you can try to push your inaccurate agenda.

Comparing the EU to the Nazi's is just about as wrong as it gets and a perfect example of why so many people were whipped up to vote on a pack of lies.

Yawn - I don't really care why you stay away Mark and if you think you can come back and and start mouthing off at me, you can think again.

Don't interfere in matters which do not concern you.

Finally - I am not wrong - you got Guy Verhoftstadt stood there in the EU Parliament demanding more Sovereign power from the EU Member States and that power being taken and put back in the EU institutions, you got the EU wanting an army - if this not more Hitler/Nazi like, I don't know what is. So the meme I posted earlier is actually fairly accurate. So enough of your silly big font "wrong wrong wrong memes", it has absolutely no effect on me.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

Well if they can't even organise a piss up in a brewery then there ain't much hope of warring politicians ever coming up with a cohesive well thought out plan.

To give Nigel Farage due credit, I don't doubt he could organise a mighty fine piss-up in a brewery. But he wouldn't be much good the next morning when it came to negotiations with the EU.

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Originally Posted by handyman

He could have compromised some of his more extreme views and made hay in this situation.

That would have been the sensible thing to do but JC must be the worst leader of the big 2.5 political parties for a long time.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

To give Nigel Farage due credit, I don't doubt he could organise a mighty fine piss-up in a brewery. But he wouldn't be much good the next morning when it came to negotiations with the EU.

<SNIP>

Got anything to back the assertion up that Farage wouldn't be a decent Brexit negotiator?