Government & Post Election Discussion 
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			15-11-2018, 15:51
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1666
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Still alive and fighting 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2007 
				Location: In the land of beyond and beyond. 
				
				Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV. 
				
					Posts: 56,657
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Angua
					 
				 
				Like Jeremy leading the Labour party did more to boost the Tories. Jacob leading the Tories would do more to boost the opposition. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Exactly as if Labour had a decent leader they would be way ahead in the polls given the grave crisis we have  in this country now..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”  
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			15-11-2018, 18:01
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1667
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 nashville 
			
			
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Feb 2011 
				Location: Rutherglen. Glasgow 
				
				Services: Virgin Media 
				
					Posts: 5,284
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Queens Speech (Government Plans) 2017
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  denphone
					 
				 
				We have had our smart meter for 2 years now and thus so far we are pretty happy with it. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 I read the other day that the Energy companies will be charging customers £150 a year if you do not have a Smart Meter.  This is Blackmail to me.  I do not have one yet but not really interested from stories I have heard.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			15-11-2018, 20:58
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1668
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 laeva recumbens anguis 
			Cable Forum Team 
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2006 
				
				Age: 68 
				Services: Premiere Collection 
				
					Posts: 43,805
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Queens Speech (Government Plans) 2017
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  nashville
					 
				 
				I read the other day that the Energy companies will be charging customers £150 a year if you do not have a Smart Meter.  This is Blackmail to me.  I do not have one yet but not really interested from stories I have heard. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 They are offering their cheapest tariffs to customers who accept a Smart Meter - tariffs without a Smart Meter may cost up to £150 per year more.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				 Thank you for calling the Abyss. 
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void,  or press 2 to begin your stare. 
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			15-11-2018, 23:53
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1669
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 17 years same company 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Apr 2005 
				Location: Expanding Town with crap roads 
				Age: 66 
				Services: ? BB, basic phone. Share of Disney+ 
				
					Posts: 7,674
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Queens Speech (Government Plans) 2017
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				They are offering their cheapest tariffs to customers who accept a Smart Meter - tariffs without a Smart Meter may cost up to £150 per year more. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Not all of the "they" are doing this. Some of the smaller companies do not do smart meters and are cheaper than the main 5. 
 
Anyone who sticks with the same energy supplier all the time will pay for the reductions they offer new customers.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 01:25
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1670
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 laeva recumbens anguis 
			Cable Forum Team 
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2006 
				
				Age: 68 
				Services: Premiere Collection 
				
					Posts: 43,805
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Queens Speech (Government Plans) 2017
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Angua
					 
				 
				Not all of the "they" are doing this. Some of the smaller companies do not do smart meters and are cheaper than the main 5.  
 
Anyone who sticks with the same energy supplier all the time will pay for the reductions they offer new customers. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 That’s because the smaller companies aren’t being mandated by the Government to install Smart Meters in their customers’ premises, so don’t have the overhead cost.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				 Thank you for calling the Abyss. 
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void,  or press 2 to begin your stare. 
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 09:57
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1671
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Woke and proud ! 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2004 
				
				
				Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife 
				
					Posts: 9,963
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Queens Speech (Government Plans) 2017
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				That’s because the smaller companies aren’t being mandated by the Government to install Smart Meters in their customers’ premises, so don’t have the overhead cost. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 
Yes i always go for the smaller cheaper companies.  So what if 2 of them went bust !  Hasn't affected me at all, and i've got the cheapest (same) energy in the meantime.
 
As for Smart meters - don't trust them, they snoop on you and fry your brains     Seriously  - if hacked, someone would be able to tell when you're away/out of the house, using no energy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 11:04
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1672
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Perfect Soldier 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Mar 2009 
				Location: Worthing West Sussex 
				Age: 68 
				Services: VM 500M SH3 thingy
in modem mode
XL TV V6 Sony Bravia smart TV and M phone 
				
					Posts: 11,215
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				Quote from The Sun: 
 
 
Theresa May's government could lose the support of its DUP allies unless the Tory party replace her with a new leader, according to reports. 
 
The Northern Irish party would vote down the withdrawal agreement in Parliament, adding that its support now “depended on who the leader of the Conservative Party is,” The Daily Telegraph reports. 
 
The party's deputy today savaged the PM in the Commons, saying she clearly "doesn't listen" to them and their Brexit demands. 
 
Nigel Dodds told the Prime Minister this morning: "We stand up for the whole of the UK, the integrity of the UK or we vote  for a vassal state with the break up of the UK." 
 
He commended ex-Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab and DWP boss Esther McVey who both quit today over her Brexit deal.
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Link to source article above.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				History is much like an endless waltz: The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. 
However history will change with my coronation - Mariemaia Khushrenada
  
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 11:08
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1673
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Still alive and fighting 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2007 
				Location: In the land of beyond and beyond. 
				
				Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV. 
				
					Posts: 56,657
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			And if they get rid of her  it will be all out civil war in the Conservative party and make these last few days seem like a cosy tea party.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”  
			 
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
						Last edited by denphone; 16-11-2018 at 11:12.
					
					
				
			
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 11:13
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1674
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Woke and proud ! 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2004 
				
				
				Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife 
				
					Posts: 9,963
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  denphone
					 
				 
				And if they get rid of her  it will be all out civil war in the Conservative party and make these last few days seem like a cosy tea party. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 The decline of the Roman Empire was much like this   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 11:25
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1675
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Rise above the players 
			
			
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Mar 2008 
				Location: Wokingham 
				
				Services: 2 V6 with 360 software, ITVX, 4+, Prime, Netflix, Apple+, Disney+, Paramount+, Discovery+ 
				
					Posts: 15,164
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  denphone
					 
				 
				And if they get rid of her  it will be all out civil war in the Conservative party and make these last few days seem like a cosy tea party. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 I don't think that a crash and burn situation would be good for the country, so let's not look forward to that with great relish, Den.  
 
---------- Post added at 10:25 ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 ---------- 
 
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Mr K
					 
				 
				The decline of the Roman Empire was much like this    
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Quite a harbinger of doom, aren't we, Mr K?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 11:29
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1676
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Still alive and fighting 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2007 
				Location: In the land of beyond and beyond. 
				
				Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV. 
				
					Posts: 56,657
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  OLD BOY
					 
				 
				I don't think that a crash and burn situation would be good for the country, so let's not look forward to that with great relish, Den. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 l never stated that l would look forward to that OB but you know as well as l do that that scenario cannot be ruled out given how things are transpiring in front of our eyes.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”  
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 13:12
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1677
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 cf.mega poster 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Feb 2012 
				
				
				
				
					Posts: 4,725
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  Mr K
					 
				 
				The decline of the Roman Empire was much like this    
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 I hope not! That took 100+ years to play out ...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Unifi UCG Ultra + Unifi APs | VM 1Gbps
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 13:17
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1678
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Still alive and fighting 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2007 
				Location: In the land of beyond and beyond. 
				
				Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV. 
				
					Posts: 56,657
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  ianch99
					 
				 
				I hope not! That took 100+ years to play out ... 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 And there were plenty of backstabbing , power grabbing and assassinations during that time as well.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”  
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 17:12
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1679
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 cf.mega poster 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2010 
				Location: Jarrow Tyne & Wear 
				
				Services: 360 box 
				
					Posts: 5,864
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Sky News 
 
Verified account 
  
@SkyNews 
 33s 
33 seconds ago 
  
  
More 
"Amber Rudd is going back into cabinet" - @AmberRuddHR MP has been appointed work and pensions secretary, according to Sky sources.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			16-11-2018, 17:24
			
			
		 | 
		
			
			
			
			 
			#1680
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 cf.mega poster 
			
			
			
			
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2013 
				
				
				
				
					Posts: 15,411
				 
				
				
				
				
				     
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				Leading Brexiteers in the cabinet have rallied behind Theresa May amid attempts to unseat her by Tory MPs. 
Michael Gove said he "absolutely" had confidence in Mrs May as he confirmed he would not be following several other ministers out of the door. 
And Liam Fox urged MPs to support the PM's draft Brexit agreement, saying a "deal was better than no deal". 
Amber Rudd has been confirmed as the new work and pensions secretary after Esther McVey's resignation on Thursday.  
A replacement for Dominic Raab, who also resigned as Brexit Secretary over the deal, has yet to be announced.
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46230281
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
 
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
		
	
		 
		Posting Rules
	 | 
 
	
		
		You may not post new threads 
		You may not post replies 
		You may not post attachments 
		You may not edit your posts 
		 
		
		
		
		
		HTML code is Off 
		 
		
	  | 
 
 
	 | 
	
		
	 | 
 
 
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:31. 
		 
	 
 
 |