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		|  07-08-2018, 20:01 | #1 |  
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			As has been said before, the Labour Party seems to suffer from anti-Semitsm and the Conservative Party from Islamophobia. Neither cancels the other out but both leaders need to get a grip. JC by looking in the mirror and at his friends' list and TM at BoJo's latest pearls of wisdom. Until Theresa May asserts herself over BoJo, she has no chance in improving her negotiating position in Brussels.
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		|  07-08-2018, 22:03 | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  As has been said before, the Labour Party seems to suffer from anti-Semitsm and the Conservative Party from Islamophobia. Neither cancels the other out but both leaders need to get a grip. JC by looking in the mirror and at his friends' list and TM at BoJo's latest pearls of wisdom. Until Theresa May asserts herself over BoJo, she has no chance in improving her negotiating position in Brussels. |  Finally...
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		| PM Theresa May has backed calls for Mr Johnson to apologise, saying the remarks have "clearly caused offence". |  But of course he won’t, as he is playing ‘dog whistle’ politics.
		 
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			Mr Johnson's comments maybe a little insensitive but don't attack a whole people group for who they are.  He probably should apologise for causing offence even if he believes what he said is true and not intended to cause offence.
		 
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		|  08-08-2018, 17:57 | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by tweetiepooh  Mr Johnson's comments maybe a little insensitive but don't attack a whole people group for who they are.  He probably should apologise for causing offence even if he believes what he said is true and not intended to cause offence. |  The problem in this country these days is that humour has been sacrificed in favour of political correctness.
 
Does anyone think the burka looks like a letterbox? If so, you should be able to say so, at least in the context of how Boris made his comparison. It was not done in a hateful way, and that's what those who want to exercise their right to be offended are missing.
 
When I wore my dear old puffa jacket last winter, I was told I looked like Michelin Man. Was I offended? Of course not, I laughed (and haven't worn it since!).
 
I resent the fact that some people are trying to undermine British ways, such as our sense of humour, to make ridiculous political points.
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		|  08-08-2018, 20:42 | #5 |  
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			Context is all - you are not a national politician writing in a national newspaper.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Context is all - you are not a national politician writing in a national newspaper. |  Boris is just an ignorant, bigoted bloater with delusions of grandeur.. Who is going tell him ?    PM?  lmao, think TM is safe if he her main opposition !  If the Tories don't deal with him, they are no better than Labour.
 
Interesting, but not surprising, is the difference treatment the press dish out to Corbyn & Bozza. .
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  Strange, I was thinking just how similar Boris and Trump are ! Being deliberately provocative to try and make themselves the media star, and playing to the worst most bigoted elements in society. |  Bad hair is about as far as the similarity goes. Everything Boris had said ( for example the recent Burkha issue) is completely factual and reasoned.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Bad hair is about as far as the similarity goes. Everything Boris had said ( for example the recent Burkha issue) is completely factual and reasoned. |  Really ? Comparing the way people dress to letterboxes? Childish school yard stuff. Designed to insult, and create maximum publicity for himself.  As a national politician he's a disgrace (and a joke).
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Everything Boris had said ( for example the recent Burkha issue) is completely factual and reasoned. |  I'm not sure you know much about Boris, Pierre. He was sacked by The Times for making up a quote and by Michael Howard for lying about an affair. 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Bad hair is about as far as the similarity goes. Everything Boris had said ( for example the recent Burkha issue) is completely factual and reasoned. |  Well, except for the time in 1988 when he got fired from the Times for two made up stories, or the time in November last year he told the House of Commons that “there can be no return to a hard border. There can be no hard border. That would be unthinkable, and it would be economic and political madness” , but said this year that it should not be the UK’s priority to ensure there is “no border” between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, but rather that it should make sure such a border should not be “significantly harder”, or the time during the Brexit campaign when he said it was absolutely crazy that the EU was setting rules on the shape of bananas (spolier alert - it wasn't, and that has been continuously debunked since 1994, but continues to raise it's ugly head every so often), or the time he got fired as Shadow Arts Minister in 2004 for lying about affairs he had had.
		 
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		|  12-08-2018, 22:40 | #11 |  
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			Boris gets away with so much just because of his bumbling, eccentric, persona. 
 What about when he said he would lie in front of the bulldozers to block a new runway at Heathrow only to make sure he was out of the country when the vote came?
 
 Or the money wasted on the Emirates Skyline near the O2 which no ones uses?
 
 Even his resignation from the Foreign Office was typically self-serving after doing so on the day a British citizen was killed as a result of a poisoning in which they suspect Russia.
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Well, except for the time in 1988 when he got fired from the Times for two made up stories, |  Ok so we're going back 30 years now..................so relevant, thanks for the heads up.
  
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		| or the time in November last year he told the House of Commons that “there can be no return to a hard border. There can be no hard border. That would be unthinkable, and it would be economic and political madness”, but said this year that it should not be the UK’s priority to ensure there is “no border” between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, but rather that it should make sure such a border should not be “significantly harder”, |  That is all opinion, which he is entitled to have.
 
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		| or the time during the Brexit campaign when he said it was absolutely crazy that the EU was setting rules on the shape of bananas (spolier alert - it wasn't, and that has been continuously debunked since 1994, but continues to raise it's ugly head every so often), or the time he got fired as Shadow Arts Minister in 2004 for lying about affairs he had had. |  Not sure about the Banana bollocks, but again not sure about your point. I see nothing factual in your examples and certainly nothing that would be in detriment to his comments on Burkhas.............. 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  I'm not sure you know much about Boris, Pierre. |  Ha,  got an expert here obviously.
 
 He was sacked by The Times for making up a quote and by Michael Howard for lying about an affair. 
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/times-bo...son-flat-lied/ [/QUOTE]
 
It's truly touching, and a little bit sad and immature, that you had to google,  " all the times Boris Johnson had lied"'.
 
Congratulations, that puts you above most of the press.  However, that also puts you in the weasel classification. I look forward to your redemption.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  It's truly touching, and a little bit sad and immature, that you had to google,  " all the times Boris Johnson had lied"'.
 Congratulations, that puts you above most of the press.  However, that also puts you in the weasel classification. I look forward to your redemption.
 |  I didn't Google that. Boris's sackings are public knowledge to many people. So another false statement on top of your original one about Boris.
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