General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I'm growing tired of your dramatic accusations in relation to your (claimed) perception my posts. I am entitled to my view of things, as are you.

As it stands, VM only have space for four more HD channels. This is a material fact.

Wouldn't let the 'Old Giirl' get to you Richard ! She has a tendency to deliberately provoke

[ozsat]

I beleive the logos are provided by the channels themselves so not down to VM.

Some of the existing HD logos are difficult to see the HD anyway - it is easy to see the HD in the channel name of the right in the guide.

Watching QuestHD - they don't use HD on screen either so I guess they don't want it.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster

It's odd that they haven't included logos for Paramount Network HD, Quest HD and Love Nature HD that have 'HD' on them, as viewers scrolling through the EPG can't immediately identify which are the SD and HD versions of those channels.

[Ultimate.Conj]

Originally Posted by ozsat

I beleive the logos are provided by the channels themselves so not down to VM.

Some of the existing HD logos are difficult to see the HD anyway - it is easy to see the HD in the channel name of the right in the guide.

Watching QuestHD - they don't use HD on screen either so I guess they don't want it.

Also the new function on the v6 box to switch to the HD variant by pressing the blue button is good. So if you want the HD channel but aren't sure of the number this is a handy feature

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I'm growing tired of your dramatic accusations in relation to your (claimed) perception my posts. I am entitled to my view of things, as are you.

As it stands, VM only have space for four more HD channels. This is a material fact.

I can think of 20 (at least) channels that could easily be dropped and perhaps 1 that I would like added!!!!!

[cheekyangus]

The lack of space thing puzzles me. Given they recently moved most/all the HD channels to MPEG4 from MPEG2 that in itself would free up space with the codec being more bandwidth efficient.

And another thread on here is about them retiring V Boxes. VM have been slowly moving customers off equipment that can't do MPEG4. Once complete they can move SD channels to MPEG4 too. Another little space gain.

I wouldn't put it past them making any new channels available via IP rather than DVB-C. They've been talking about things like that for aeons.

Sometimes watching VM implement plans is like watching a sloth in treacle.

[jfman]

Can someone demonstrate that Virgin only have space for four more HD channels? I consider it quite unlikely.

Anyone got a frequency plan?

[nialli]

Originally Posted by jfman

Can someone demonstrate that Virgin only have space for four more HD channels? I consider it quite unlikely.

I second that. Richard C says it's a 'material fact' but I don't recall seeing anything to support his statement.
Years ago capacity on the VM network was an issue but that was before DOCSIS 3 and the major upgrades we've seen since, including the move to Mpeg 4 compression.
There are also some local 'capacity' issues where a street cabinet is oversubscribed.
If Spiderplant says there's no capacity constraint, there's no capacity constraint - he knows his stuff.
I don't think a 'Frequency Plan' would reveal much to us laymen.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

Can someone demonstrate that Virgin only have space for four more HD channels? I consider it quite unlikely.

Anyone got a frequency plan?

How relevant is the capacity issue really? If VM is able to add capacity quickly and cost-effectively then it ceases to be an issue.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by nialli

I second that. Richard C says it's a 'material fact' but I don't recall seeing anything to support his statement.
Years ago capacity on the VM network was an issue but that was before DOCSIS 3 and the major upgrades we've seen since, including the move to Mpeg 4 compression.
There are also some local 'capacity' issues where a street cabinet is oversubscribed.
If Spiderplant says there's no capacity constraint, there's no capacity constraint - he knows his stuff.
I don't think a 'Frequency Plan' would reveal much to us laymen.

I agree. I think Richard is right to say that the existing set-up has limited space available, but he goes a little too far in claiming or hinting that this is a major problem for Virgin Media.

I don't think it is, and as spiderplant has said more than once now, if VM need more space, they will simply create it.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Wouldn't let the 'Old Giirl' get to you Richard ! She has a tendency to deliberately provoke

Is that really you saying that. Mr K? Stones and glass houses are words that come to mind!

I have not deliberately provoked anyone on the forums, but I have challenged some of the things they say where I do not agree with their comments. I, too, am frequently challenged, but being a discussion forum, isn't that what it is all about?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

Material fact with what proof?,

Den, you do know that you're in danger in agreeing with Old Boy on something? You might wish to wear a sun hat when venturing outside.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Den, you do know that you're in danger in agreeing with Old Boy on something? You might wish to wear a sun hat when venturing outside.

l would rather borrow OB's famous straw hat as its usually spot on Andrew.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by denphone

Material fact with what proof?,

As previously explained, it's already been provided in the thread about it.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Wouldn't let the 'Old Giirl' get to you Richard ! She has a tendency to deliberately provoke

Indeed and it's getting wearing now, my life is difficult enough as it is without the likes of that.

Fans were unimpressed by the picture quality on Quest last night when they tuned in to watch the first EFL highlights show on the channel:

https://www.a516digital.com/2018/08/...retro-efl.html

There were reports of pixelation, wrong aspect ratio etc.

Please use the UKTV thread to discuss that situation.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...8#post35957908

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I agree. I think Richard is right to say that the existing set-up has limited space available, but he goes a little too far in claiming or hinting that this is a major problem for Virgin Media.

I don't think it is, and as spiderplant has said more than once now, if VM need more space, they will simply create it.

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Is that really you saying that. Mr K? Stones and glass houses are words that come to mind!

I have not deliberately provoked anyone on the forums, but I have challenged some of the things they say where I do not agree with their comments. I, too, am frequently challenged, but being a discussion forum, isn't that what it is all about?

The upper limit being they can only work with 115-860mhz. At 8mhz wide that allows for 92 downstream channels of which 24 are used by broadband.

Of the remaining 68 how many are being utilised? If not, why not?

Virgin have done work changing to 256QAM increasing the total bandwidth by 30% for TV. It can’t all be in use? Moving users to V6 from legacy boxes pushes “on demand” into the 24 broadband frequencies from the TV side.

[Media Boy UK]

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