General Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels - Page 48

Inactive Digital · 04-08-2018, 20:40

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster

UKTV must be spending a lot on sponsored Twitter ads, it's every time they tweet about VM and comes across as really desperate.

Yes, they do seem keen to keep stoking the fire, don't they. The must want a deal more than Virgin, putting them in a weaker negotiating position.

denphone · 04-08-2018, 20:47

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster

UKTV must be spending a lot on sponsored Twitter ads, it's every time they tweet about VM and comes across as really desperate.

They are desperate as it will hurt them far more then it will hit Virgin if the impasse continues..

dodgem22 · 04-08-2018, 20:51

I dont think either side is desperate because if they were one side would have given in by now.

OLD BOY · 04-08-2018, 21:00

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Originally Posted by dodgem22

I dont think either side is desperate because if they were one side would have given in by now.

Not so. You only need stubborness on one side to create such a situation.

I don't like the tone of the tweets by UKTV that I have seen and it leads me to believe that the stubborness is at their end.

They will learn and come crawling back eventually. At a considerable cost to themselves.

Mr K · 04-08-2018, 21:41

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Not so. You only need stubborness on one side to create such a situation.

I don't like the tone of the tweets by UKTV that I have seen and it leads me to believe that the stubborness is at their end.

They will learn and come crawling back eventually. At a considerable cost to themselves.

There's a lot of pro VM trolling there OB ! Can t see how VM aren't losing big time from this given lost customers and big discounts/cash credits they are giving out very readily. Seems that like VM are desperate ones.

I suspect the channels will come back as its in both parties interest, but it may be a few months. Expect a significant price rise to follow to make up for lost custom/discounts. Maybe all this has been manufactured as an excuse for that price rise ! Cynical moi

OLD BOY · 04-08-2018, 21:53

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Originally Posted by Mr K

There's a lot of pro VM trolling there OB ! Can t see how VM aren't losing big time from this given lost customers and big discounts/cash credits they are giving out very readily. Seems that like VM are desperate ones.

I suspect the channels will come back as its in both parties interest, but it may be a few months. Expect a significant price rise to follow to make up for lost custom/discounts. Maybe all this has been manufactured as an excuse for that price rise ! Cynical moi

No trolling here, Mr K, I am trying to introduce some reason into the hysteria.

I really don't buy the assertion that VM is losing trouserfuls of money over this. Yes, there is some dissatisfaction and some customers will move on, but the majority will stay, and new subscribers will continue to come on board.

UKTV channels really aren't good on quality, they put out old and dated material in the main. If I subscribe to pay tv I expect more. As for price rises, they will come round every year, whichever platform you talk about, and the reason for those price rises will be speculated on ad nauseum.

alwaysabear · 04-08-2018, 22:37

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No trolling here, Mr K, I am trying to introduce some reason into the hysteria.

I really don't buy the assertion that VM is losing trouserfuls of money over this. Yes, there is some dissatisfaction and some customers will move on, but the majority will stay, and new subscribers will continue to come on board.

UKTV channels really aren't good on quality, they put out old and dated material in the main. If I subscribe to pay tv I expect more. As for price rises, they will come round every year, whichever platform you talk about, and the reason for those price rises will be speculated on ad nauseum.

Have to agree, and how many on this forum who are moaning are actually going to cancel.

OLD BOY · 04-08-2018, 23:03

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

Have to agree, and how many on this forum who are moaning are actually going to cancel.

Very few, I suspect!

Mr K · 04-08-2018, 23:03

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

Have to agree, and how many on this forum who are moaning are actually going to cancel.

Well no I'm not going to cancel, but only because VM have given me more than enough discount/credit to buy a NowTV box / subscription to watch the UKTV channels if I so wish. This is what they actually suggested ! It's a strange and desperate retention policy to fund and advise buying a rival TV system !

OLD BOY · 04-08-2018, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Well no I'm not going to cancel, but only because VM have given me more than enough discount/credit to buy a NowTV box / subscription to watch the UKTV channels if I so wish. This is what they actually suggested ! It's a strange and desperate retention policy to fund and advise buying a rival TV system !

And for you, a practical solution. Another happy customer, then!

RichardCoulter · 05-08-2018, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Well no I'm not going to cancel, but only because VM have given me more than enough discount/credit to buy a NowTV box / subscription to watch the UKTV channels if I so wish. This is what they actually suggested ! It's a strange and desperate retention policy to fund and advise buying a rival TV system !

Only GOLD is currently on Now TV, but they are negotiating to get the rest onto Now TV. I'm waiting until this is done before I subscribe. As I will then have all the Pay channels I want (including UKTV & Sky Atlantic) it will be pointless paying for them twice with VM.

If VM don't try and put me into another contract (see thread about this), i'll keep the free TV service as I will still be able to record most of my viewing via TiVo, get the triple play discount and get a 40% discount on the TiVo fee

pip08456 · 05-08-2018, 18:08

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Only GOLD is currently on Now TV, but they are negotiating to get the rest onto Now TV. I'm waiting until this is done before I subscribe. As I will then have all the Pay channels I want (including UKTV & Sky Atlantic) it will be pointless paying for them twice with VM.

If VM don't try and put me into another contract (see thread about this), i'll keep the free TV service as I will still be able to record most of my viewing via TiVo, get the triple play discount and get a 40% discount on the TiVo fee

As I said in your other thread. Changing any part of your current contract be it going to the free TV service or what ever has logically to become a new contract.

The terms of your contract will have changed and will cancel your existing one.

denphone · 05-08-2018, 18:34

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Originally Posted by pip08456

As I said in your other thread. Changing any part of your current contract be it going to the free TV service or what ever has logically to become a new contract.

The terms of your contract will have changed and will cancel your existing one.

Spot on Pip.

Hom3r · 05-08-2018, 20:04

We had a similar scenario a few years back when Sky 1 was pulled.

What was annoying it was before the penultimate episode of SG1. Luckily My uncle recorded the last ever episode for us.

Sky 1 cam back, so UKTV will come back.

OLD BOY · 05-08-2018, 20:27

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Originally Posted by pip08456

As I said in your other thread. Changing any part of your current contract be it going to the free TV service or what ever has logically to become a new contract.

The terms of your contract will have changed and will cancel your existing one.

Although, as I have already mentioned to Richard, he can pull out of a contract as soon as the next price rises are announced.