Brexit discussion

[Carth]

Question from a thick leaver

What sort of border does the EU want Ireland to have?

Originally Posted by Carth

Question from a thick leaver

What sort of border does the EU want Ireland to have?

One which doesn't have a physical presence in order for people to go back and forth across it as if it were the same country.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Damien

One which doesn't have a physical presence in order for people to go back and forth across it as if it were the same country.

oh . . . but they can't have that if the UK leave can they?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

One which doesn't have a physical presence in order for people to go back and forth across it as if it were the same country.

That's easy the republic can become part of the UK .

I am sure that idea will be popular.

[Sephiroth]

The EU is duplicitous on the Irish border question. It is a lever they are pulling to try and make us stay in the Customs Union etc. Then we would be rule takers unable to trade freely on our own part.

And don’t forget France, who have blocked CAP reform; Germany who has engineered the whole thing so that the cash comes to them at every one else's cost.

The Irish border question is a complete red herring orchestrated by the Brussels turds and the perfidious Varadkar.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

That's easy the republic can become part of the UK .

you do know Republic is in the EU right and there no change of them becoming part of UK

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The EU is duplicitous on the Irish border question. It is a lever they are pulling to try and make us stay in the Customs Union etc. Then we would be rule takers unable to trade freely on our own part.

And don’t forget France, who have blocked CAP reform; Germany who has engineered the whole thing so that the cash comes to them at every one else's cost.

The Irish border question is a complete red herring orchestrated by the Brussels turds and the perfidious Varadkar.

what utter nonsense you do know the brexstremists want WTO rules don't you and under there rules there have to be a hard border eu don't control WTO rules

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

That's easy the republic can become part of the UK .

or they can remain in the EU . . in which case the EU needs to look at ways in which to protect 'their' border against us nasty people in the UK

Originally Posted by Dave42

what utter nonsense you do know the brexstremists want WTO rules don't you

I know of at least 2 on here that don't

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Dave42

you do know Republic is in the EU right and there no change of them becoming part of UK

I wouldn't bother, he was just trolling ..

[1andrew1]

Great to see the UK winning large warship contract from Australia. Shows that we can successfully trade with the rest of the world whilst still in the EU.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Great to see the UK winning large warship contract from Australia. Shows that we can successfully trade with the rest of the world whilst still in the EU.

here, have one of these Andrew

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

here, have one of these Andrew

Better not, you might lose your grip. 😁

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Using coloured text or coarse adjectives fails to make you correct.
Others have explained the implications of being a third country as have I. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Yes, you can, Andrew. As I keep saying, you need to think outside the box.

Just bake another cake. Simples.

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Originally Posted by Carth

Question from a thick leaver

What sort of border does the EU want Ireland to have?

What they want and what they will get might be two different things!

It will be a virtual border, monitored by technology. The EU is trying to make that idea appear nonsense to get leverage, but in fact it is perfectly possible. There will also be monitoring with cameras, but not necessarily on the actual border itself.

My bet is on the 'maximum facilitation' method or a variant of it. That makes perfect sense to me.

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Originally Posted by Dave42

what utter nonsense you do know the brexstremists want WTO rules don't you and under there rules there have to be a hard border eu don't control WTO rules

That may be their stance, but that's just to keep the pressure up to intimidate Brussells and the remainer extremists.

As long as we secure a dealmwith the EU that provides for us to trade with the rest of the wofld outside of the EU's jurisdiction, I am sure that most Brexiteers will be satisfied.

If we end up with WTO rules, that will be a Brussells failure, and they will live to regret it.

[ianch99]

You can see a narrative forming here: if Mrs May does not get a "good" deal, one that both the EU and the UK can agree on then we fall back to WTO rules with all that entails. Of course, when this happens, we will patently worse off, in many respects than now, so what we will see from the Brexiteers and the right wing press is a proclamation of 'Betrayal!"

If only the EU had be reasonable, if only the traitorous Remainers has shut up and if only we had all been positive and had the faith required we would not be in the position we are in now

Just watch ...

Mystic Meg is available for parties (not Tory), bar mitzvahs and other sundry social events ...

[1andrew1]

The Cabinet has an away week at Chequers lined up so by this time next week we should finally know what kind of relationship the Country wants with the EU and its solution to ensuring a soft border can be maintained in Ireland.
Rumours that BoJo might be forced to resign. No longer seen as a threat by May due to his declining popularity in the Party and recent actions.