Government & Post Election Discussion

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

The 9 years of ineptitude, infighting, EU obsessed Tories since then might also be a factor. How long can they keep blaming Labour?

We all know Labour trashed the economy 9 years ago but its a rather easy and simplistic to blame them totally for all todays deep ills as both parties have to take their share of blame IMO.

Originally Posted by Mr K

The 9 years of ineptitude, infighting, EU obsessed Tories since then might also be a factor. How long can they keep blaming Labour?

Infighting? I think you have the wrong party.

Infighting is occurring in Labour!

The Tories can keep blaming them while there is an incompetent, pathetic and weak leader when it comes to racist and anti-Semitic actions within the Labour Party, as far I am concerned.

[Mr K]

No I've got the right party they've been infighting and obsessed with the EU for 40 years. Meanwhile domestic issues can go hang.

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Originally Posted by denphone

We all know Labour trashed the economy 9 years ago but its a rather easy and simplistic to blame them totally for all todays deep ills as both parties have to take their share of blame IMO.

Well they may need to take some of the blame, but the (B)ankers seem to have got off scott free. The financial crisis was Worldwide.

Originally Posted by Mr K

No I've got the right party they've been infighting and obsessed with the EU for 40 years. Meanwhile domestic issues can go hang.

There is more infighting going on in Labour, because the party is being ripped apart by far left Corbinites.

Obsessed for the right reasons because we never should have joined!

They remedied that by finally giving the people the choice to leave the corrupted EU.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

The 9 years of ineptitude, infighting, EU obsessed Tories since then might also be a factor. How long can they keep blaming Labour?

Well, if it hadn't been for Labour's ineptitude, there would have been no need for austerity, so they are right to still be blaming Labour.

The fighting is because a comfortable majority does not exist. The same happened with the 1970s Callaghan government.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from YouGov:


The Prime Minister now holds a 10 point net favourability lead over the opposition leader

The Salisbury poisoning and Labour’s anti-Semitism row may have harmed Jeremy Corbyn’s popularity among the British public, with new YouGov favourability data revealing the Prime Minister is now seen more favourably than the Leader of the Opposition for the first time since the general election.

At the end of January Corbyn was still comfortably ahead of May, with a net favourability rating of -12 versus the Prime Minister’s -25, scores which had been fairly consistent since August 2017. However, by mid-March the Prime Minister had essentially drawn level (on -15 to Corbyn’s -19), and now Theresa May leads her rival by -13 to -23.

Looks like Corbyn's peaked.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

No I've got the right party they've been infighting and obsessed with the EU for 40 years. Meanwhile domestic issues can go hang.

Well, it seems they've been proved right, and at last the electorate have caught up. They have been 'obsessing' because they could see the damage the EU would do and was doing to our country.

After 10 years outside the EU post Brexit, I think the vast majority will agree that this was a good move, provided that Corbyn's lot don't get in and make a huge mess of things, as they would.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Looks like Corbyn's peaked.

Let's hope so, for the good of the country and certainly for our future security.

BREAKING: Amber Rudd has resigned as Home Secretary following the Windrush Scandal.

https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-m...ation-11353254

[denphone]

Her position was pretty untenable IMO as the Windrush Scandal unfolded.

[heero_yuy]

She could have weathered the Windrush stuff. It was misleading Parliament that got her, even if it was (possibly) unwittingly. In the eyes of MP's that's worse than acid bath murderer.

Yeah Windrush wasn't really her fault apart from responding slowly when she learned of it.

I still want to know who set the targets..

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I still want to know who set the targets..

Are not the targets set by the PM?.

Originally Posted by Damien

Yeah Windrush wasn't really her fault apart from responding slowly when she learned of it.

Yep.

And lets remember here, so far, Conservative MPs who have accepted wrong doing in the cabinet have resigned when faced with tough pressure.

In the Labour Party, where Antisemitism is rife, so far there is a leader who won't deal with the problem properly despite being under pressure, i.e by sacking Ken Livingston or resign.

And also lets face it, those people calling Rudd out on the left, want Labour to be in control, that would be cannot count, Diane Abbott as Home Secretary.... who had a previous history of supporting the IRA along with her previous lover boy, Corbyn.

It was also in the news yesterday that Russia influenced last years snap election to get Jeremy Corbyn elected, the Putin appeasing he has been doing of late, makes total sense now.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...Election-Putin

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Originally Posted by denphone

Are not the targets set by the PM?.

There should be targets set to control illegal immigration. The UK is a small Island, we cannot sustain 300K immigrants per year, we already have a chronic housing shortage...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yeah Windrush wasn't really her fault apart from responding slowly when she learned of it.

If her colleagues had rallied around her, she would have survived and doubtless learnt from her mistakes. But the Brexit-Remaion split in the party ensured that many Brexiters did not support her.