Brexit discussion

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mick

Typical of the corrupt EU telling us what we can do, in our own god damn waters. NO DEAL!

Too right Mick, if they want 'our' fish they can pay for it

. . . and while we're at it, they can keep their damn snow too. They keep sending us the stuff knowing how much it disrupts the country

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Carth

. . . and while we're at it, they can keep their damn snow too. They keep sending us the stuff knowing how much it disrupts the country

It's direct from Russia - no coincidence, gas supply next ! Still, I'm off to a much warmer welcoming part of the EU for a couple of weeks

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'm off to a much warmer welcoming part of the EU for a couple of weeks

Happy Hols Mr K

Please find enclosed my advance order for 1000 cigs and 5 bottles of decent Brandy

[jonbxx]

From that FT article, fishing contributes a stonking 0.05% of our GDP. It’s amazing the amount of coverage the industry gets considering its size. Manufacturing is 400x bigger and services is 1600x bigger as a contribution to GDP.

[Carth]

I love my Fish & chips, much healthier and satisfying than a Macdonalds

Shame that families now prefer the latter for 'convenience'

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Carth

I love my Fish & chips, much healthier and satisfying than a Macdonalds

Shame that families now prefer the latter for 'convenience'

Just remember to spit the plastic out.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

I love my Fish & chips, much healthier and satisfying than a Macdonalds

Shame that families now prefer the latter for 'convenience'

I reckon fish and chip sales stil surpass McDonalds. There are 10,500 fish and chip outlets compared to 1,200 McDonalds.
http://www.federationoffishfriers.co...igures-603.htm

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mick

Typical of the corrupt EU telling us what we can do, in our own god damn waters. NO DEAL!

Well, Mick, it's only for another couple of years. If we get what we want from the deal, does that really matter?

Annoying, yes, but a deal breaker? I don't think so.

[1andrew1]

Britain has apparently conceded most issues at "supersonic speed" so good progress has been made but the Irish border remains a sticking point.

The EU side is holding out for Britain to explicitly acknowledge that a draft EU “protocol” on Ireland — outlining a “backstop” option to avoid a hard border — is a sound basis for negotiations, according to officials involved in talks. “We’re not trying to be tough,” said one EU ambassador. “We just need clarity...One EU negotiator said they expect “frantic” discussions over the weekend, with the aim of completing a deal with David Davis, the Brexit secretary, on Monday. The negotiator said he was still “confident” a deal was possible next week.

https://www.ft.com/content/81058592-...e-cc62a39d57a0

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Britain has apparently conceded most issues at "supersonic speed" so good progress has been made but the Irish border remains a sticking point.

https://www.ft.com/content/81058592-...e-cc62a39d57a0

We're getting there. And I don't think the border issues will be a problem in the end.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

We're getting there. And I don't think the border issues will be a problem in the end.

It certainly won't be if we take the same approach as we have all the other negotiating points, i.e. concede.

The Times
The Irish government will insist that Theresa May publicly renounces her opposition to the EU’s “backstop” plans for the Irish border.

Last month Mrs May told British MPs that the EU’s draft text of a withdrawal treaty was something “no UK prime minister could ever agree to” because it would effectively create a new border in the Irish Sea between Britain and Northern Ireland.

The British government has also said that the plan threatens the “constitutional integrity” of the UK.

The Times understands, however, that Ireland, France and the European Commission are demanding that Britain agree “publicly and unambiguously” that the draft text can form the basis for negotiations. The Irish government could threaten to block negotiations this spring unless Mrs May backs down.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...exit-psjvwld8g

With the weight of the EU behind it, Ireland is in a very strong position to get its way.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It certainly won't be if we take the same approach as we have all the other negotiating points, i.e. concede.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...exit-psjvwld8g

With the weight of the EU behind it, Ireland is in a very strong position to get its way.

and the Brextremists still think we in strong position it unbelievable

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Dave42

and the Brextremists still think we in strong position it unbelievable

If we were in a strong position, we wouldn't have conceded on areas such as the 21-month transition and fisheries. It's not that David Davis is a particularly poor negotiator, it's just that the EU holds all the cards.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If we were in a strong position, we wouldn't have conceded on areas such as the 21-month transition and fisheries. It's not that David Davis is a particularly poor negotiator, it's just that the EU holds all the cards.

exactly and who can forget the famous this will be easiest deal in history from the brextremist Liam Fox but they wont admit reality no matter what

[1andrew1]

Hmm, so does this mean we have to remain in the single market and establish a new customs union with the EU until our IT infrastructure is in place?

The Sunday Times (a pro-Brexit newspaper)
Britain’s customs system will not be ready in time for the start of its new relationship with the European Union at the end of 2020, according to a damning report presented in secret to senior cabinet ministers last week.
The readiness assessment, drawn up by senior civil servants, was given to Theresa May’s Brexit war cabinet on Tuesday afternoon. But ministers did not get a chance to study it properly before the meeting was cut short by a Commons vote.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...exit-psjvwld8g