Brexit discussion

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Damien

When you're being assured that we won't become a dystopian wasteland you get the feeling they're lowering expectations really.

Of course they are not. He's just addressing all those negative prophets of doom who seem to think that the world is about to come to an end.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Of course they are not. He's just addressing all those negative prophets of doom who seem to think that the world is about to come to an end.

Addressing them by being even more doom laden, unless he thinks the false prophets believe it'll be worse than said dystopian wasteland

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I sometimes worry about how all those countries that don't belong to the EU manage!

Might be something to do with not being ripped off by a sky high membership fee perhaps?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Addressing them by being even more doom laden, unless he thinks the false prophets believe it'll be worse than said dystopian wasteland

That's twisting it a bit, isn't it? Perhaps you'd like to read the comment again. He's saying what will not happen!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

When you're being assured that we won't become a dystopian wasteland you get the feeling they're lowering expectations really.

Desperate stuff designed to reassure the declining leave vote it won't be so bad.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Desperate stuff designed to reassure the declining leave vote it won't be so bad.

And on what Data are you using to state the Brexit vote is in decline?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

And on what Data are you using to state the Brexit vote is in decline?

It's been previously discussed on here so I won't go over old ground. Anyone wishing to see them can use the forum's search tools.
The speech as reported doesn't seem the great vision I was hoping for. I will be interested to read it in more depth later before judging fully.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The speech as reported doesn't seem the great vision Ib was hoping for. I will be interested to read it in more depth later.

Personally Andrew, I'd rather watch paint dry than read a David Davis speech. Brexit will be not quite as bad as the apocalypse, sounds super to me ! The guy has vision, got to give him that.

Meanwhile in the Torygraph money section desperate wealthy pensioners are asking how they can 'Brexit proof' their investments. Not very confident are they ?

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's been previously discussed on here so I won't go over old ground. Anyone wishing to see them can use the forum's search tools.
The speech as reported doesn't seem the great vision I was hoping for. I will be interested to read it in more depth later before judging fully.

Don't shrug off your statement as though it is fact, when it is not and no it has not been discussed on here of any official data of any kind, no official data exists of the leave vote being in decline.

The leave vote is not in decline at all and I can say that because that was the end result on June 23rd referendum, no other large scale referendum has took place to say the leave vote is in decline. It is just Remainer fantasy to say it is in decline, so do not state something as fact when it is not and you have no idea.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Don't shrug off your statement as though it is fact, when it is not and no it has not been discussed on here of any official data of any kind, no official data exists of the leave vote being in decline.

The leave vote is not in decline at all and I can say that because that was the end result on June 23rd referendum, no other large scale referendum has took place to say the leave vote is in decline. It is just Remainer fantasy to say it is in decline, so do not state something as fact when it is not and you have no idea.

If you want to revisit the debate about the poll then you're welcome to. I doubt your views won't have altered on your beliefs in representative sample sizes, the unbias of polling organisations so we'd only go round in circles.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Don't shrug off your statement as though it is fact, when it is not and no it has not been discussed on here of any official data of any kind, no official data exists of the leave vote being in decline.

The leave vote is not in decline at all and I can say that because that was the end result on June 23rd referendum, no other large scale referendum has took place to say the leave vote is in decline. It is just Remainer fantasy to say it is in decline, so do not state something as fact when it is not and you have no idea.

Here you go Mick, a nice graph to keep you happy

Doubtless it's all lies by the liberal lefties...

[Carth]

Now come on, we all know that as far as these polls go they ask a certain amount of people and then discard half of the results they don't like.

Did people really believe that 9 out of 10 cats preferred whiskas, or that every family had 2.4 children?

Polls and statistical analysis are flawed, tell me another . . . .

[denphone]

l agree statistics and polls can be twisted and massaged to suit ones political agenda as governments massage statistics all the time in just cherry picking one bit that suits their agenda and not mentioning the other 99 bits that don't suit their agenda.

Originally Posted by Carth

Now come on, we all know that as far as these polls go they ask a certain amount of people and then discard half of the results they don't like.

Did people really believe that 9 out of 10 cats preferred whiskas, or that every family had 2.4 children?

Polls and statistical analysis are flawed, tell me another . . . .

That's why polling companies publish their questions, underlying data and methodologies.

All polling isn't equal. A poll commissioned by a company to help sell a product is obviously more suspect than a poll commissioned by The Times newspaper who publish the same poll every month irrespective of the result.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That's twisting it a bit, isn't it? Perhaps you'd like to read the comment again. He's saying what will not happen!

And he's setting the bar low, really low, I thought it was a joke when I first heard it