Brexit discussion

Oh look another leak and yet again it's an anti brexit leak funny how there are never leaks of the positive reports and yes they do exist within government circles always anti brexit and so good for our nation that the deliberate undermining of a democratic process is being welcomed by so many. Not overly surprised to be honest the anti brigade only have so long before the positives can be revealed as they are being actively worked upon but cannot be officially announced for a while. This country gets more pathetic day by day how i wish i had the money to get the hell out.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

and the evidence you have of this is??

Britain will be left worse off under all Brexit scenarios, with financial services, chemicals, clothing, manufacturing, food and drink, cars and retailing among the sectors worst hit, according to secret government analysis.


aah, thought so.

It's just what some people (highly educated and in positions of National importance) have 'accidentally' allowed to be leaked to the press - again!

one has to wonder why

I don't doubt some feeble attempts by BoJo et al to undermine this document. Maybe even bring in there's no such as experts, they always get things wrong.
The people of this great nation should see the document and make up their own minds.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Oh look another leak and yet again it's an anti brexit leak funny how there are never leaks of the positive reports and yes they do exist within government circles always anti brexit and so good for our nation that the deliberate undermining of a democratic process is being welcomed by so many. Not overly surprised to be honest the anti brigade only have so long before the positives can be revealed as they are being actively worked upon but cannot be officially announced for a while. This country gets more pathetic day by day how i wish i had the money to get the hell out.

Yes, of course those positive reports really do exist, but the aliens won't allow them to be leaked.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by ianch99

You seem to forget there are those that moaned and complained for 40 years after the vote to join the Common Market. I missed the post where you affirmed that any dissent after this vote was anti-democractic?

I'm flattered that you were expectantly awaiting some sort of announcement from li'l ol' me. It's made me feel like your carer .

Originally Posted by Dave42

hit nail on head remember the Brextremists only think one vote counts and no one has right to say anything about it

Leave voters have debated their referendum win with remoaners since the day it took place; it doesn't change the result though .

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Oh look another leak and yet again it's an anti brexit leak funny how there are never leaks of the positive reports and yes they do exist within government circles always anti brexit and so good for our nation that the deliberate undermining of a democratic process is being welcomed by so many. Not overly surprised to be honest the anti brigade only have so long before the positives can be revealed as they are being actively worked upon but cannot be officially announced for a while. This country gets more pathetic day by day how i wish i had the money to get the hell out.

Take heart from knowing you're on the winning side RK; as Ronald Reagan once said: we shouldn't hold the inexperience of snowflakes against them (or something like that) .

Grow up or are you really that stupid to believe only negative reports exist, you talk about the people getting to see that document as if it's the be all and end all when the truth is it's nothing in terms of information and situations that brexit is generating and the people of this country are getting to see or even hear of barely nothing. Not a thing about the meeting merkel had with senior german business leaders a month ago where she was told germany needed a good deal with the UK or how macron had military and intelligence people telling him how important the UK was in terms of security for the western european nations.

You think your being so clever but the fact is your not hearing about or even really aware of what's actually going on constantly arguing over trivialities and constantly repeating tired old arguments. Our position in these negotiations is anything but one sided but there are some in this country that won't forgive the people of the UK voting how they did and will do anything they can to undermine that vote even to the point of damaging this country's position to further their agenda. If the people should get to see one document they should get to see them all but that won't happen and when they find whoever leaked this they need to go to prison and it is time the law hit all those who leak confidential and classified information.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Oh look another leak and yet again it's an anti brexit leak funny how there are never leaks of the positive reports and yes they do exist within government circles always anti brexit and so good for our nation that the deliberate undermining of a democratic process is being welcomed by so many.

Which positive internal government reports exist? I mean maybe they do but it doesn't follow there was to be a 'positive' report for every 'negative' report.

This country gets more pathetic day by day how i wish i had the money to get the hell out.

Grass is always greener on the other side. This is a very good country to live in IMO.

If the people should get to see one document they should get to see them all but that won't happen and when they find whoever leaked this they need to go to prison and it is time the law hit all those who leak confidential and classified information.

This report also contains the projected growth from US and other trade deals. But yes they should release the whole thing to Parliament.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Which positive internal government reports exist? I mean maybe they do but it doesn't follow there was to be a 'positive' report for every 'negative' report.

Grass is always greener on the other side. This is a very good country to live in IMO.

This report also contains the projected growth from US and other trade deals. But yes they should release the whole thing to Parliament.

Totally agree, Damien.

And sad to see another Brexiter denigrating this great nation of ours. This is a fantastic country to live in and I'm sad that we can't all agree on this one point.

If anyone feels otherwise and wants to leave the UK, that's a more productive use of their time than knocking the UK on forums. If they're not dependent on state benefits then there's a wealth of countries they can move to work or just retire in. We're very fortunate in this respect.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Totally agree, Damien.

And sad to see another Brexiter denigrating this great nation of ours. This is a fantastic country to live in and I'm sad that we can't all agree on this one point.

If anyone feels otherwise and wants to leave the UK, that's a more productive use of their time than knocking the UK on forums. If they're not dependent on state benefits then there's a wealth of countries they can move to work or just retire in. We're very fortunate in this respect.

Indeed if someone does not like this wonderful country despite its faults then they should toddle off to Timbuktu or some other great paradise..

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by

The Express

EU flags must be removed from the Ministry of Defence building, Gavin Williamson has demanded as he tells the department to get behind the UK’s decision to leave the EU, it has been reported.

The Defence Secretary is said to have been shocked to see EU flags in the building, including outside important meeting rooms, when he took over the department last November.

In a bid to quickly put right the out-of-date decor, Mr Williamson ordered the flags be replaced with Union Jacks to restore patriotism within the building.

One source is believed to have said: “Gavin said he saw no reason why they should waste any time on delaying the removal of the EU flags.

Well done that man.

Gavin Williamson isn't being subtle is he?

[arcimedes]

I believe the word prat is appropriate.

[jonbxx]

That Whitehall report isn't all doom and gloom, there are also projections on growth from trade deals;

On the plus side, the analysis assumes in all scenarios that a trade deal with the US will be concluded, and that it would benefit GDP by about 0.2% in the long term. Trade deals with other non-EU countries and blocs, such as China, India, Australia, the Gulf countries, and the nations of Southeast Asia would add, in total, a further 0.1% to 0.4% to GDP over the long term.

There's definitely growth potential with non-EU countries, that was why the UK was courting Turkey and China. However, the highest growing countries are either small economically, or far away, or both. The highest average growth over the last 6 years for example was Nauru in the South Pacific

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Kursk

I'm flattered that you were expectantly awaiting some sort of announcement from li'l ol' me. It's made me feel like your carer

This is pretty wierd even by your standards ..

[Mr K]

All this fuss over a report that's telling what we already know i.e. we're screwed. The Brexiteers genuinely seem to have only just realised it, hence the panic.

Originally Posted by Mr K

All this fuss over a report that's telling what we already know i.e. we're screwed. The Brexiteers genuinely seem to have only just realised it, hence the panic.

There is nothing to realise. Mr K.

No panic here. Looking forward to leaving still.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by ianch99

This is pretty wierd even by your standards ..

Sorry don't have time to help you with English comprehension. A cocoa and a wee might help you though

Originally Posted by Mr K

...we're screwed.

No "we're" not. Try sucking your thumb to assist relaxation