Government & Post Election Discussion

American style culture is here already. We’re living it.

Just a few things we don’t want. A Price board that doesn’t display true price, with added tax when you get to the tills.

We don’t start calling the pavement a sidewalk.

We don’t adopt the ‘No Jaywalking’ law.

Things we do want.

Free refills in cafes and restaurants.

Greater tipping culture.

More Election Enthusiasm.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

American style culture is here already. We’re living it.

Just a few things we don’t want. A Price board that doesn’t display true price, with added tax when you get to the tills.

We don’t start calling the pavement a sidewalk.

We don’t adopt the ‘No Jaywalking’ law.

Things we do want.

Free refills in cafes and restaurants.

Greater tipping culture.

More Election Enthusiasm.

They maybe what you want Mick, but it's not for everyone !

Free refills, just makes the obesity epidemic worse. Greater tipping causes confusion all round, and even less wages for staff. Election enthusiasm ? Good luck with that !

We need to be British and proud, celebrate our own culture, not some country 5000 miles away. If anything the culture of our European neighbours is more relevant. Give me French wine and cheese rather than a Big Mac !

[heero_yuy]

A LABOUR MP has called for council tax to be doubled on some UK homes to combat local authority cuts - with the average home seeing a £350 rise.

Chris Williamson, a close ally of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, proposed a 100 per cent hike for properties worth more than £320,000.

Band D homes valued between £68,000 and £88,000 would see a 20 per cent increase in their council tax under the plans, adding up to an average rise of £350 a year.

Those worth less, in Bands A-C, would have their contribution frozen.

The proposals were slammed as "reckless" by the Tories, who argued they would hit ordinary workers unfairly.

Source

£320,000 is the starting price for a very modest terraced house in our area.

“They're not even in government but still Labour can't help themselves in wanting to put their hands in hardworking households' pockets to pay for their reckless plans.

“Chris Williamson is a key Corbyn ally so if ever they got into power taxpayers would certainly suffer badly.”

[Osem]

Andrew Neil exposing Labour hypocrisy:

https://order-order.com/2018/01/10/d...lent-misogyny/

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Osem

Andrew Neil exposing Labour hypocrisy:

https://order-order.com/2018/01/10/d...lent-misogyny/

Do you ever get deja-vu ? I do. Maybe I read the same (hate)site all the time ....

Originally Posted by Osem

Andrew Neil exposing Labour hypocrisy:

https://order-order.com/2018/01/10/d...lent-misogyny/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ncrease-Budget

He does it to everyone..

Originally Posted by Mick

Things we do want.

Greater tipping culture.

BOOOOOOO!

The tipping culture is a result of the fact they pay peanuts for wages for many service-based jobs that they have to make it up in tips. It turns tips into a near-compulsory act otherwise you're undermining someone's ability to live and, in my opinion, allows companies to exploit their staff.

In the UK you're still free to tip as you please but with the staff getting compensated better anyway. A tip is generally for good service as opposed to average service but that waiter needs to eat too.

Originally Posted by Damien

BOOOOOOO!

The tipping culture is a result of the fact they pay peanuts for wages for many service-based jobs that they have to make it up in tips. It turns tips into a near-compulsory act otherwise you're undermining someone's ability to live and, in my opinion, allows companies to exploit their staff.

In the UK you're still free to tip as you please but with the staff getting compensated better anyway. A tip is generally for good service as opposed to average service but that waiter needs to eat too.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Damien

In the UK you're still free to tip as you please but with the staff getting compensated better anyway. A tip is generally for good service as opposed to average service but that waiter needs to eat too.

Many places the tips all go in the tronc to be shared by all the serving staff rather than the individual that you give the tip to.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Many places the tips all go in the tronc to be shared by all the serving staff rather than the individual that you give the tip to.

Which l don't agree with personally as we like to give a good tip for good waiting service by a individual rather then it going into a pot to be shared around when some of those waiters in that place might be a load of rubbish.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

But by doing so, they are being very political. I don’t read any newspaper, but I do not agree on censorship of this kind. We all have our different views on immigration, it does need tighter control, the U.K. cannot sustain hundreds of thousands of people coming here every year. People who claim this is xenophobia are talking nonsense. People who claim it’s racist, are equally doing the same.

This is Branson probably throwing a pathetic tantrum, because of Brexit, which he venomously opposed and he is likely using the Mail as a scapegoat.

Tim Farron had his views on gay sex, but I didn’t see anyone suggesting he should be banned from anywhere. It’s hypocrisy again, at it’s highest form from some liberals.

It's not censorship, you can still read the Mail on the train you just can't buy it from Virgin, you can't buy The Sun, The Star, the Express, the Telegraph or the Guardian on them either which tells me it's a PR stunt designed to Virgin maximum publicity.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It's not censorship, you can still read the Mail on the train you just can't buy it from Virgin, you can't buy The Sun, The Star, the Express, the Telegraph or the Guardian on them either which tells me it's a PR stunt designed to Virgin maximum publicity.

Exactly. Virgin only sell something like 70 copies of the Mail a day so not worth their bother, best to use the retail space for something else. People buy their copies at WH Smith or read online. Virgin also sold the sister paper Mail on Sunday which supported Remain so the Brexit conspiracy theory is wrong.
Maybe rather than let the press talk about the Virgin East Coast bail-out they're distracting people to this non-story whilst trying to win over progressive customers and staff who previously might have favoured nationalisation.

Newspapers are a waste of space in a Rail buffet car because you have to sell them at face value. It makes more sense for Rail companies to line the shelves with items they can sell at a ridiculous mark-up. There’s no story here, except perhaps the vainglorious posturing of Richard Branson. Anyone who wants to know what Paul Dacre thinks Immigrants are doing to the country or what Could Cause Cancer can buy the Daily Heil at a newsagent before they board the train, or else pay for Virgin’s ridiculously expensive Wi-Fi and access HeilOnline.

If you book Standard tickets with Virgin East Coast direct, the WiFi is free.

It’s being made free as a condition of franchise renewals across the national rail network. For the time being, my local inter city route (west coast) is still charging for it, thanks to the civil service franchising debacle that has delayed the west coast franchise renewal for a number of years.