Government & Post Election Discussion - Page 47

Osem · 09-11-2017, 14:50

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The difference being that the pensioners have the triple lock. Jeremy admits that he couldn't deliver on his promise.

Or the others like rail and utilities nationalisation...

1andrew1 · 09-11-2017, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Mick

No he has not, you’re not good at mastering facts either so what gives ?

The extended jail term was an issue before Boris opened his mouth and guess what? - It is still an Iran prison issue.

Brexit was a democratic process, one of the biggest, it will still be happening, so dream on.

You've altered your tune somewhat on Jeremy "Venezuela" Corbyn! From being unable to organise a piss-up in a brewery, he's now capable of seeing through Brexit. And the logic for your upgrade? Brexit was a democratic process. Unlike the quote you posted from Aaaron Banks recently, you couldn't make it up!

The country - albeit not you or your chum BoJo - are quite concerned about his remarks. Just a recap on what he said

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Mr Johnson wrongly told a Commons committee last week that the Hampstead mother, who has dual British-Iranian citizenship, was “simply teaching people journalism” during a visit to the country last year.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3686471.html

**Mick** · 09-11-2017, 22:47

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You've altered your tune somewhat on Jeremy "Venezuela" Corbyn! From being unable to organise a piss-up in a brewery, he's now capable of seeing through Brexit. And the logic for your upgrade? Brexit was a democratic process. Unlike the quote you posted from Aaaron Banks recently, you couldn't make it up!

The country - albeit not you or your chum BoJo - are quite concerned about his remarks. Just a recap on what he said

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3686471.html

The Country ? Why you asked everyone in Britain have you ?

What quote from Aaron Banks?

Wtf have you been smoking, as I have not quoted him, ever on this forum?

And no I have not changed my tune on JC at all, Labour, as in the party, not the leader, have a mandate to deliver brexit, or did you forget their manifesto ?

They are not going to suddenly cancel it just because you don't like the result, so try not to get ahead of yourself.

1andrew1 · 10-11-2017, 01:35

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Originally Posted by Mick

The Country ? Why you asked everyone in Britain have you ?

What quote from Aaron Banks?

Wtf have you been smoking, as I have not quoted him, ever on this forum?

And no I have not changed my tune on JC at all, Labour, as in the party, not the leader, have a mandate to deliver brexit, or did you forget their manifesto ?

They are not going to suddenly cancel it just because you don't like the result, so try not to get ahead of yourself.

Sorry, my bad.

It wasn't Crooked Aaron that you quoted but Daniel Hannan when you took his words as being quotes from Remainers.

I'm not saying that if Labour won they would cancel Brexit, just wonder if you now think they will have the ability to deliver it. Will they now be able to deliver on their other promises too or just the ones you like?

**Mick** · 10-11-2017, 10:01

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Sorry, my bad.

It wasn't Crooked Aaron that you quoted but Daniel Hannan when you took his words as being quotes from Remainers.

I'm not saying that if Labour won they would cancel Brexit, just wonder if you now think they will have the ability to deliver it. Will they now be able to deliver on their other promises too or just the ones you like?

No Andrew, the point I’m trying portray, which you’re completely missing is that while you wish for the end of the current Tory Gov, whether it be a Labour one or not, either way, it’s not the end of Brexit.

OLD BOY · 10-11-2017, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Mick

No Andrew, the point I’m trying portray, which you’re completely missing is that while you wish for the end of the current Tory Gov, whether it be a Labour one or not, either way, it’s not the end of Brexit.

Correct. The only difference will be the bill we have to pay, since Labour seem quite happy to pay whatever the EU ask for.

Osem · 10-11-2017, 10:53

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Correct. The only difference will be the bill we have to pay, since Labour seem quite happy to pay whatever the EU ask for.

Yes. It's a bit rich certain people claiming HMG's negotiating strategy is pathetic when their favoured alternative is Labour who's strategy has been to tell the EU they want a deal at any price.

papa smurf · 10-11-2017, 10:53

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Correct. The only difference will be the bill we have to pay, since Labour seem quite happy to pay whatever the EU ask for.

labour have always been good at spending other peoples money and when it's gone the conservatives have to balance the books .

Carth · 10-11-2017, 10:58

Mebbe we should just tell the EU to go screw themselves . . what they gonna do, kick us out?

Osem · 10-11-2017, 10:59

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

labour have always been good at spending other peoples money and when it's gone the conservatives have to balance the books .

Yes they are excellent at that it's true. Every Labour manifesto is littered with promises of more spending as we saw last time out. Nationalisation, paying off student debts etc. etc. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetically cynical.

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Originally Posted by Carth

Mebbe we should just tell the EU to go screw themselves . . what they gonna do, kick us out?

papa smurf · 10-11-2017, 10:59

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Originally Posted by Carth

Mebbe we should just tell the EU to go screw themselves . . what they gonna do, kick us out?

i think we will need the right man in charge for that to happen

Carth · 10-11-2017, 11:06

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i think we will need the right man in charge for that to happen

nah, just needs someone who won't lose sleep over the backlash from every other half wit politician and the frenzied media.

papa smurf · 10-11-2017, 11:08

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nah, just needs someone who won't lose sleep over the backlash from every other half wit politician and the frenzied media.

sounds good i hope he gets the job

**Mick** · 10-11-2017, 11:10

Labour’s ideals are to spread the money of other people’s. In Labour’s world, you don’t have to strive to work hard, study to better yourself, because you will be given everything you need on a platter for free.

OLD BOY · 10-11-2017, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Mick

Labour’s ideals are to spread the money of other people’s. In Labour’s world, you don’t have to strive to work hard, study to better yourself, because you will be given everything you need on a platter for free.

The problem with that is that when you've milked the rich for all it's worth, where will the money come from then?

I completely agree with the idea of a mixed economy to ensure that the less well off are provided for, but the Corbyn/McDonnell Marxist approach fails to recognise that you can't have your cake and eat it too. Once the money is gone, it is gone. Why are people not learning from the mistakes made by other countries? This approach has failed wherever it has been tried. All it does is to make everyone poor (apart from a small elite at the top).