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Old 07-08-2017, 14:05   #7336
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Better than 2 competitors raising prices
I'm waiting for an interloper (could be Amazon) to oubid Sky and confound the naysayers by providing a sports service that is rather cheaper than people have to fork out for now.

Competition is, ultimately, a good thing.
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Old 07-08-2017, 14:19   #7337
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I'm waiting for an interloper (could be Amazon) to oubid Sky and confound the naysayers by providing a sports service that is rather cheaper than people have to fork out for now.

Competition is, ultimately, a good thing.
only ever means much higher prices OB so got to disagree
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Old 07-08-2017, 14:21   #7338
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only ever means much higher prices OB so got to disagree
Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!
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Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!
realist as competition always makes prices higher as with sport soon as sky had to lose all the football bills much higher
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I'm waiting for an interloper (could be Amazon) to oubid Sky and confound the naysayers by providing a sports service that is rather cheaper than people have to fork out for now.

Competition is, ultimately, a good thing.
You will be waiting a long time OB so much so that your hair will be grey and probably balding by then..

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Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!
You might be in for a nasty shock sooner then you think.
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You will be waiting a long time OB so much so that your hair will be grey and probably balding by then..

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You might be in for a nasty shock sooner then you think.
Do you have anything to support that view, Den?

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realist as competition always makes prices higher as with sport soon as sky had to lose all the football bills much higher
No, Dave, competition has the effect of bringing prices down. Monopolies push them up.

With TV sport in this country, we have seen a negative impact initially, but this will right itself.
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Do you have anything to support that view, Den?
History and market economics.

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No, Dave, competition has the effect of bringing prices down. Monopolies push them up.

With TV sport in this country, we have seen a negative impact initially, but this will right itself.
You sure about that as watching sport has nearly doubled in price these last few years for those who have both big sports packages.
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Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!
You mean apart from when they took away free delivery and make you buy other stuff before they'll even send you some items?
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No, Dave, competition has the effect of bringing prices down. Monopolies push them up.

With TV sport in this country, we have seen a negative impact initially, but this will right itself.

Well competition for premier football rights certainly had that effect - not!

Since BT got involved you have to pay for BT sports and Sky Sports to get all the games - true there are now more games on tv, but to watch the top matches you need both

End result, having to pay more!

If Amazon (or any 3rd party) win some of the rights from Sky/BT this will only get worse.
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From the other thread, BT Sport UHD is coming according to retentions
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Old 07-08-2017, 17:07   #7346
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You mean apart from when they took away free delivery and make you buy other stuff before they'll even send you some items?
Not if you are a Prime customer.
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Not if you are a Prime customer.
Still not free postage though is it really?

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It isn't until 2019 at earliest.
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Well competition for premier football rights certainly had that effect - not!

Since BT got involved you have to pay for BT sports and Sky Sports to get all the games - true there are now more games on tv, but to watch the top matches you need both

End result, having to pay more!

If Amazon (or any 3rd party) win some of the rights from Sky/BT this will only get worse.
No, it won't get worse if there is more competition. There have not been sufficient contenders to bring the price down yet, and price wise, Sky and BT are not the best combination!

The involvement of Amazon, Google and/or Twitter will make all the difference.

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Still not free postage though is it really?

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It isn't until 2019 at earliest.
I presume you are saying that you pay for delivery via the £79 subscription. Although that is true, I took out that subscription for the TV service, and I pay no more than I pay to Netflix, so as far as I am concerned, yes it's free. Whatever view you take on that, you must admit, it's pretty good value for money.

On your second point, are you sure that VM are not in negotiations with BT on this?
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I do believe that beIN Sports will enter the UK Market

Plenty of signs that indicate this will happen sooner rather than later
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I do believe that beIN Sports will enter the UK Market

Plenty of signs that indicate this will happen sooner rather than later
Yes, I have been anticipating this for a while, but it takes so long!

I guess this is why Den is so sceptical of future change!
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