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				A outcome highly unlikely to happen and if it did the customer would be paying more not less. 
			
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 I think that is unlikely. Amazon is a market disrupter, and if they do get involved as increasing speculation suggests, you may be in for a nice surprise.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-08-2017, 15:22
			
			
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				I think that is unlikely. Amazon is a market disrupter, and if they do get involved as increasing speculation suggests, you may be in for a nice surprise. 
			
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			07-08-2017, 16:36
			
			
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			I can't see Amazon bidding for Premier League rights, they're just too expensive and also sold mostly on a country by country basis rather than the pan continental rights Amazon would want. 
I can however see them buying up cheaper sports rights as they have done with ATP tennis to try and tie more people into their eco system, I could even see EFL rights going to them but The Premier League would just be too expensive unless they go for Match Of The Days highlights package.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-08-2017, 17:04
			
			
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				I can't see Amazon bidding for Premier League rights, they're just too expensive and also sold mostly on a country by country basis rather than the pan continental rights Amazon would want. 
I can however see them buying up cheaper sports rights as they have done with ATP tennis to try and tie more people into their eco system, I could even see EFL rights going to them but The Premier League would just be too expensive unless they go for Match Of The Days highlights package. 
			
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 So what do you make of this, then?
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			07-08-2017, 17:08
			
			
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			Not much as all he is doing is bigging up the price for the auction knowing full well Sky and BT Sport will bid massively and Sky will win the vast majority of the rights and BT Sport will settle for the remaining rights..
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			You know we've all ribbed OB on this but in the latest Broadband now newsletter they say 8/10 people in the UK now use catch up tv or on demand. 
Linear ofcourse is still going strong but maybe OB is on to something about on demand and catch up tv becoming most peoples method of tv soon.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-08-2017, 21:56
			
			
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				You know we've all ribbed OB on this but in the latest Broadband now newsletter they say 8/10 people in the UK now use catch up tv or on demand. 
Linear ofcourse is still going strong but maybe OB is on to something about on demand and catch up tv becoming most peoples method of tv soon. 
			
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 From my experience the under 35's watch little linear TV. I have 4 children between 25 and 33.  
 
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				Not much as all he is doing is bigging up the price for the auction knowing full well Sky and BT Sport will bid massively and Sky will win the vast majority of the rights and BT Sport will settle for the remaining rights.. 
			
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 Den it may not be BT bidding if reports the other day are to be believed.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-08-2017, 21:58
			
			
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				You know we've all ribbed OB on this but in the latest Broadband now newsletter they say 8/10 people in the UK now use catch up tv or on demand. 
			
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 Yes, most people probably use them at some point, it doesnt mean they exclusively use such services though.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				From my experience the under 35's watch little linear TV. I have 4 children between 25 and 33. 
 
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Den it may not be BT bidding if reports the other day are to be believed. 
			
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 Well we shall see as my hunch is it will be the usual 2.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Yes, most people probably use them at some point, it doesnt mean they exclusively use such services though. 
			
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 I agree i personally only use online tv/on demand/catch up tv but i think i'm probably in the minority.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-08-2017, 16:17
			
			
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				And they will in the future.   
			
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 Aye i'm with Den. I'd never want to watch sports on demand? I'd probably have been spoiled the score! Live sports and live events will always have to be linear. 
 
Maybe the current youngsters 10-16 will slowly move to ondemand 100% (i still doubt it with sports...) but the older generation just wont so linear will be around for another 30 odd years. 
 
My mum knows how to watch eastenders on demand if she's missed it. But she'd just rather watch it "live". She knows the time its on so whats the point in her watching it on demand later on?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Aye i'm with Den. I'd never want to watch sports on demand? I'd probably have been spoiled the score! Live sports and live events will always have to be linear.  
 
Maybe the current youngsters 10-16 will slowly move to ondemand 100% (i still doubt it with sports...) but the older generation just wont so linear will be around for another 30 odd years.  
 
My mum knows how to watch eastenders on demand if she's missed it. But she'd just rather watch it "live". She knows the time its on so whats the point in her watching it on demand later on? 
			
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 I agree that sport will always be linear, but I think it will be streamed (ie live) rather than through conventional broadcast channels.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-08-2017, 17:28
			
			
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				I agree that sport will always be linear, but I think it will be streamed (ie live) rather than through conventional broadcast channels. 
			
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 Good grief not this again   
As you've been told numerous times it's already streamed now by both BT and Sky.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-08-2017, 00:24
			
			
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				Good grief not this again   
As you've been told numerous times it's already streamed now by both BT and Sky.  
			
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			09-08-2017, 07:12
			
			
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				Good grief not this again   
As you've been told numerous times it's already streamed now by both BT and Sky.  
			
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