U.S President: Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Mick

Not seen footage of a CNN producer admitting Russia story has nothing to it. They are happy to carry it on because it drives up ratings. That he accuses Americans own CIA of interfering in foreign elections, hell, we had that from Obama last year remember?

That 'CNN admitting it's fake' is ironically from a right-wing film maker whose been caught selectively editing video is misrepresenting a left-wing group a while ago.

I mean the story about Russia hacking at all was fake until it wasn't. NYTimes leaked memo was 'fake' until Corney confirmed it was he who leaked it. The NYTimes story about Trump Jr meeting was fake until he released the e-mails.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Damien

That 'CNN admitting it's fake' is ironically from a right-wing film maker whose been caught selectively editing video is misrepresenting a left-wing group a while ago.

I mean the story about Russia hacking at all was fake until it wasn't. NYTimes leaked memo was 'fake' until Corney confirmed it was he who leaked it. The NYTimes story about Trump Jr meeting was fake until he released the e-mails.

'Fake' obviously has a a totally different meaning in the evangelical cult that worships the Donald.
i.e. news they don't like and can't be excused away, until incontrovertible proof is provided, then call something else fake to distract from the first false 'fake' - and then repeat... (plus make up something nasty about someone else to further distract.... )

Originally Posted by Mr K

'Fake' obviously has a a totally different meaning in the evangelical cult that worships the Donald.
i.e. news they don't like and can't be excused away, until incontrovertible proof is provided, then call something else fake to distract from the first false 'fake' - and then repeat... (plus make up something nasty about someone else to further distract.... )

No proof has been found and as for this Russian Lawyer meeting Don Jnr, whose visa expired but she was granted permission to stay on Obama's watch.

I have no problem being biased towards the Donald. He beat the crooked Clintons and wiped that smirk off Obama's face. Hell, I would choose Corbyn over the Clintons any day and that's saying something.

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Originally Posted by Damien

That 'CNN admitting it's fake' is ironically from a right-wing film maker whose been caught selectively editing video is misrepresenting a left-wing group a while ago.

I mean the story about Russia hacking at all was fake until it wasn't. NYTimes leaked memo was 'fake' until Corney confirmed it was he who leaked it. The NYTimes story about Trump Jr meeting was fake until he released the e-mails.

You said that before but the sentences coming from the CNN's producers mouth cannot be fabricated in such a fashion. He clearly said those words.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Mr K

'Fake' obviously has a a totally different meaning in the evangelical cult that worships the Donald.
i.e. news they don't like and can't be excused away, until incontrovertible proof is provided, then call something else fake to distract from the first false 'fake' - and then repeat... (plus make up something nasty about someone else to further distract.... )

I wonder when it will dawn on him that running a country is a lot different to running a business.

Originally Posted by Mick

You said that before but the sentences coming from the CNN's producers mouth cannot be fabricated in such a fashion. He clearly said those words.

They can't be fabricated but they can be selectively edited. As he did with Acorn. This guy never releases the full tapes. The video cuts between the juicy sentences. One time they're at a table, another time they're in a hallway, another time in a lift. We don't know if he continued speaking to caveat his remarks. For example after this sentence: "could be [excrement]. I mean it's mostly [excrement] right now. Like, we don't have any big giant proof" the producer might have said "but on the other hand there is a lot of smoke, lots of small pieces". We don't know but it's highly edited from a guy who was caught pulling the same tricks previously.

But even if it was unedited it's not proof the Russia thing is made up. NYTimes might have a thing to say about that, it's not like a CNN producer's opinion is evidence of the entire story being made up by everyone in the media. I just googled this 'producer' and he is a producer of medical programs on CNN. It's not even on the team that would handle political stories.

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Trump is attacking his own AG now: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=48831375

President Donald Trump continued his public criticism of Attorney General Jeff Sessions as part of a series of early-morning tweets, calling his appointed head of the Justice Department "very weak" on "Hillary Clinton crimes."

Originally Posted by Damien

Trump is attacking his own AG now: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=48831375

It sure looks like he is applying pressure on him to quit. Trump is still reeling and never was happy when Sessions recused.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

No proof has been found and as for this Russian Lawyer meeting Don Jnr, whose visa expired but she was granted permission to stay on Obama's watch.

I have no problem being biased towards the Donald. He beat the crooked Clintons and wiped that smirk off Obama's face. Hell, I would choose Corbyn over the Clintons any day and that's saying somethings.

Good grief have you had a funny turn today Mick as the language was rather different last week and the week before.

[richard s]

I wonder when Sky news will put British news first instead of Donald Trump this and Donald Trump that.

US Senate passes vote to pass the motion to debate the Republican Healthcare act which is said to be aiming for repealing and replacing Obamacare.

48 hours until the vote now. We'll also get to see what is actually going to be in the bill, is it repeal and replace with the Republican plan or just scrapping Obamacare.

Originally Posted by Damien

48 hours until the vote now. We'll also get to see what is actually going to be in the bill, is it repeal and replace with the Republican plan or just scrapping Obamacare.

Ironically enough, the first step in taking away healthcare from 22 million Americans was passed by the vote from a Senator (McCain) who was recovering from life-saving surgery provided by state-funded healthcare.

The senate voted down the 'most comprehensive' version of their health bills last night, a few more to go before the final one tomorrow. Even the one yesterday had Medicare (i.e not Obamacare but the last resort, government funded, healthcare) cuts. There is a suggestion they might end up with some minor revisions just so they can say they passed something then throw it back to the house.

Trump has announced via Twitter that Transgenders will not be allowed to serve in the US Military, in any capacity. He has made the decision based on consultation with Military chiefs.

Pretty big thing to announce on Twitter. Wonder if he is attempting to distract American attention from the health care vote.

[richard s]

There are apparently nearly 2000 Transgenders all ready serving in their forces.