Government & Post Election Discussion
19-07-2017, 14:39
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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THE gap between how much the rich and poor earn is closing — contradicting claims by Jeremy Corbyn, a major study has found.
The Institute for Fiscal Studies said the poorest 10 per cent have got richer since Labour lost power in 2010 while the wealthiest tenth are less well off.
The think tank believes the fall in inequality, seen in London and across the UK, is due to the strong growth in employment.
Labour leader Mr Corbyn repeatedly claimed during the election campaign there was a “growing gap between the richest and poorest in our society”.
But Tory MP Andrew Bridgen said: “The hard-left aren’t interested in facts. They keep peddling this myth the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.”
Fellow Conservative MP Peter Bone said: “The Government has always said that the gap is narrowing. The IFS has proved it now.”
He warned many believed the Labour leader’s claims, adding: “I’m afraid that’s the danger. Once you start believing the fake news, you’ll start believing Jeremy Corbyn’s fake economic policy.”
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Seems to be a few here that have also swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
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19-07-2017, 14:39
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Canterbury is going to be a place where they might struggle to hold onto the seat as it would require a consistently high turnout from students. Especially if the election were held out of term time.
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You're right. What are the odds on an August / September snap election I wonder ?
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19-07-2017, 14:50
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Seems to be a few here that have also swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
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That's good news. Some more detail here: https://www.ft.com/content/cdf4235e-...7-15af748b60d0
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You're right. What are the odds on an August / September snap election I wonder ?
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Unlikely now. There was thinking in the immediate aftermath of the election that it might happen but the government is stable for now, plus they're running out of time to call it. I think you need 4 weeks notice as least?
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19-07-2017, 15:40
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Evidently JC is so upset about Tory NHS parking charges that he reckons he'd scrap them. Typically, he's not quite so keen to explain why his party introduced them in Wales and seems to have no plans to change that. It appears he's deleted a tweet on the subject :
https://order-order.com/2017/07/19/c...run-welsh-nhs/
Embarrassed maybe?
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Seems to be a few here that have also swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
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They believe what they want to hear. Twas ever thus.
I dare say all those left leaning BBC millionaires must swing the rich v poor balance the other way a little however... 
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20-07-2017, 18:31
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
Vince Cable is to succeed Tim Farron as Lib Dem leader.
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20-07-2017, 18:41
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Vince Cable is to succeed Tim Farron as Lib Dem leader.
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as far as i'm concerned they're still tainted by the homophobe farron , that stink won't wash off that easily .
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20-07-2017, 19:29
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The latest in a long line of non-entity Lib Dem leaders. He's also got form for suspending any form of good judgement when confronted by pretty female journalists posing as constituents.
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20-07-2017, 20:02
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Bit bland although he was one of the few who warned about the oncoming crash in 2008
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20-07-2017, 21:47
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Bit bland although he was one of the few who warned about the oncoming crash in 2008
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I was warning about it before 2008.  It wasn't rocket science that a big bust was on the way.
Anyway just in case anyone was tempted to think that Diane Abbott might have, at long last, got a grasp of basic figures pertaining to her brief we have this:
https://order-order.com/2017/07/20/d...numbers-gaffe/
Utterly inept.
Can anyone seriously imagine her as home secretary? 
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20-07-2017, 21:53
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20-07-2017, 22:29
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Seems to be a few here that have also swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
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Load of ball projected here I would say. The S... will hit the fan in a couple of years. So sorry for the people having to get a state pension at 68, mine is 66.
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20-07-2017, 22:53
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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10% seems an awfully high jump in a year! 
It's anecdotal but the moped thefts (people on the moped's stealing) seems to be reaching crisis levels in London over the last 2-3 years. Now acid attacks.
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21-07-2017, 01:37
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Was the current home secretary in that position for the whole of period referred to in those figures?
If not then the deflection fails.
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21-07-2017, 08:00
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Was the current home secretary in that position for the whole of period referred to in those figures?
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No deflection my dear Julian but she is the current incumbent of the Home Office and if she ain't up to the job as they say then she has to move along now as the current crime figures are unacceptable unless you think otherwise? as the cuts have gone way too far now IMO.
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21-07-2017, 12:44
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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10% seems an awfully high jump in a year!
It's anecdotal but the moped thefts (people on the moped's stealing) seems to be reaching crisis levels in London over the last 2-3 years. Now acid attacks. |
In order to judge these figures we need to understand whether, for example, there's been additional reporting of crimes that were hitherto not reported for whatever reason. A great deal of effort has gone into encouraging people to report hate crimes, for example, and given the terrorist attacks we've seen in the last year or so it's not entirely surprising that there'd be a surge in reports of reprisal attacks in whatever form they've taken whether verbal abuse or serious physical assault.
As for the acid and other moped attacks, IIRC the lads arrested recently were held in relation to 5 or 6 attacks that happened in once evening. These crimes whether attempted or successfully completed are easy to commit in large numbers and it wouldn't surprise me at all to discover that there's a very few people actually responsible for a vast number of them. Have there been any acid attacks since the young men were arrested? I haven't heard of any being reported.
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