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 What has that got to do with any trade deal?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			16-07-2017, 14:35
			
			
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				What has that got to do with any trade deal? 
			
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 If the US administration won't honour a simple promise then what chance is there of its honouring a complex promise?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			16-07-2017, 14:39
			
			
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				If the US administration won't honour a simple promise then what chance is there of its honouring a complex promise? 
			
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 Which simple promise are you referring to?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			16-07-2017, 15:02
			
			
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				Which simple promise are you referring to? 
			
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 Visiting the UK this year was promised when Theresa May visited Washington this January. Multiple sources are reporting that this won't happen this year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Was there ever a date set for it?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			16-07-2017, 15:22
			
			
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				Was there ever a date set for it? 
			
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			16-07-2017, 17:58
			
			
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No date was set, or was ever set. No official date has ever been set or given. No promises have ever been made. 
 
It doesn't need a President to come to arrange trade deals. But it would be courteous to extend a invitation, as there are just as many people who would welcome the President as those who don't.  
 
If we can allow the Chinese President to come, with all the trimmings, with a civilisation with dubious human rights records, we can allow President Donald J Trump to come and yes, I would have said same if Hillary Clinton had won, as crooked as I think the Clintons come.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			16-07-2017, 22:55
			
			
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				Sigh. SSDD. 
 
No date was set, or was ever set. No official date has ever been set or given. No promises have ever been made. 
 
It doesn't need a President to come to arrange trade deals. But it would be courteous to extend a invitation, as there are just as many people who would welcome the President as those who don't.  
 
If we can allow the Chinese President to come, with all the trimmings, with a civilisation with dubious human rights records, we can allow President Donald J Trump to come and yes, I would have said same if Hillary Clinton had won, as crooked as I think the Clintons come. 
			
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 Firstly, I agree with you that we should allow Trump to visit. He's certainly not the worst leader to visit the UK by a long mile. He may not go down too well with the Royal Family for his comments about Lady Diana and his ignorance of global warming but they've hard far worse guests to entertain.
 
I do have a couple of sighs I'm afraid though. Sorry.  
Sigh No.1 The pesky mainstream media reported back in January 2017 that Trump had agreed to visit this year. 
Sigh No. 2 No one has said the President needs to visit the UK to arrange trade deals, that's a straw man. I'll reiterate the point I made. If a small promise is not kept then the chances of a large promise like a trade deal is reduced.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			17-07-2017, 00:14
			
			
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				 I'll reiterate the point I made. If a small promise is not kept then the chances of a large promise like a trade deal is reduced. 
			
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 That is nothing more than your opinion which you are quite entitled to.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			trump is not going to visit if thousands of hate peddling scruffy libtards are on the streets spoiling his visit for the millions who want him to come , once the government  stop these vile hate filled  morons we will get a visit , a visiting head of state should be treated with respect especially the head of our closest ally .
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				trump is not going to visit if thousands of hate peddling scruffy libtards are on the streets spoiling his visit for the millions who want him to come , once the government  stop these vile hate filled  morons we will get a visit , a visiting head of state should be treated with respect especially the head of our closest ally . 
			
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Quite frankly, the way the British media have behaved, by pushing a biased view of Trump, you could not blame Trump, if he told the British to, 'Go take a running jump!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Quite frankly, the way the British media have behaved, by pushing a biased view of Trump, you could not blame Trump, if he told the British to, 'Go take a running jump! 
			
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 Yes, how biased are they, reporting what he and his family actually say and do.
 
Why can't they just copy Fox News and blindly praise him?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Quite frankly, the way the British media have behaved, by pushing a biased view of Trump, you could not blame Trump, if he told the British to, 'Go take a running jump! 
			
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 i blame the rent a retard mob that turn up at the drop of a hat .
 
i read yesterday that quite a lot of prominent reporters are now in need of security guards to protect them [the price of picking sides]
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				trump is not going to visit if thousands of hate peddling scruffy libtards are on the streets spoiling his visit for the millions who want him to come , once the government  stop these vile hate filled  morons we will get a visit , a visiting head of state should be treated with respect especially the head of our closest ally . 
			
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				Quite frankly, the way the British media have behaved, by pushing a biased view of Trump, you could not blame Trump, if he told the British to, 'Go take a running jump! 
			
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 We have a free press and the right to protest. Saudi Arabia did manage to give him a positive reception but the Government can't control such things here. If Trump is waiting for that he may be waiting some time (obviously some stuff can change but I don't see it baring an external event intervening).
 
This is why I am wary of a trade deal happening. If the independent press of another country being mean about you is a problem then he is too temperamental to deal with. What if he pulls out of talks or the deal because a bad headline sets him off? It's like dealing with a child. Hopefully he won't take too much of an interest in the deal leaving it all to congressional republicans.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				Yes, how biased are they, reporting what he and his family actually say and do. 
 
Why can't they just copy Fox News and blindly praise him? 
			
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 Well assuming that everything he/they say/do do isn't terrible, they could maybe try to report something positive.  That'd be less biased.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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