Government & Post Election Discussion

Originally Posted by Paul M

I bit of a dumb remark, be sheesh, talk about over reaction by everyone, you would think she had killed someone.

My thoughts exactly. Biggest outcry seems to have come from Labour MPs... but wait....

Labour MP David Lammy, an Anti-Democratic MP given he don't accept brexit result acted in a racist manner last week when he raised eyebrows about the Judge in the Glenfell Fire, being unsuitable because and he started with, he was... white and what about the anti-semitism with Labour and racist Diane Abbott, saying 'White people love to play divide and rule, we should not play their game.'

The Tories were right to suspend the whip and she was right to apologise.

Let's not get into 'this is what the Tories' are like but she is reasonable for her owns words. This is a reflection on her and the Tories' quick suspension shows they don't have time for it.

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Originally Posted by Mick

My thoughts exactly. Biggest outcry seems to have come from Labour MPs... but wait....

Labour MP David Lammy, an Anti-Democratic MP given he don't accept brexit result acted in a racist manner last week when he raised eyebrows about the Judge in the Glenfell Fire, being unsuitable because and he started with, he was... white and what about the anti-semitism with Labour and racist Diane Abbott, saying 'White people love to play divide and rule, we should not play their game.'

Ok but people can't complain about Labour not being strong enough on the anti-Semitism in their party if they don't support the Tories doing the same. This whataboutary can go on forever because next time Ken Livingstone goes on a Hitler rampage his defenders could point to this and around and around we go.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Damien

The Tories were right to suspend the whip and she was right to apologise.

Let's not get into 'this is what the Tories' are like but she is reasonable for her owns words. This is a reflection on her and the Tories' quick suspension shows they don't have time for it.

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Ok but people can't complain about Labour not being strong enough on the anti-Semitism in their party if they don't support the Tories doing the same. This whataboutary can go on forever because next time Ken Livingstone goes on a Hitler rampage his defenders could point to this and around and around we go.

Surely you can't be talking about when a Labour MP is heard to made a "loony left" remark, there is a rash of Pavlovian posts citing the pathetic and hypocritical Labour party but when you get a Tory making a similarly stupid racist remark, any criticism is "overreaction".

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Surely you can't be talking about when a Labour MP is heard to made a "loony left" remark, there is a rash of Pavlovian posts citing the pathetic and hypocritical Labour party but when you get a Tory making a similarly stupid racist remark, any criticism is "overreaction".

I was waiting till someone tried to deflect attention away from the story by mentioning Diane Abbott. I promised myself I wouldn't have a cup of tea until someone did. Fortunately, I didn't go thirsty for very long!

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I was waiting till someone tried to deflect attention away from the story by mentioning Diane Abbott. I promised myself I wouldn't have a cup of tea until someone did. Fortunately, I didn't go thirsty for very long!

Maybe we should start a drinking game! Even time someone (mentioning no names ) uses the words "luvvie", "hypocrisy", "Corbynista", "cronies", etc. we should all have a shot!

Cheers!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by pip08456

My Jamacan friend will be overwhelmed with this as I call him Sunshine and he calls me Honkey.

l was called many derogatory names when one was younger and it just went over my head as it does now.

[heero_yuy]

I now use the phrase "A gentleman of dark countenance lurking in your winter fuel"

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

The Tories were right to suspend the whip and she was right to apologise.

Let's not get into 'this is what the Tories' are like but she is reasonable for her owns words. This is a reflection on her and the Tories' quick suspension shows they don't have time for it.

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Ok but people can't complain about Labour not being strong enough on the anti-Semitism in their party if they don't support the Tories doing the same. This whataboutary can go on forever because next time Ken Livingstone goes on a Hitler rampage his defenders could point to this and around and around we go.

Quite. It was a stupid and unpleasant thing to say and she's been immediately punished for it. It's not quite in the same league as the sort of hate filled speech and actions the usual Labour suspects come out with however and therein lies the difference, especially since Labour are the ones whose campaign strategy has long relied upon portraying others as 'nasty'.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Theresa May's majority reduces by one as one of her MPs is suspended over the use of racist language.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...l-nr-woodpile/

At the going rate that's £100,000,000 of Tory voting intent lost.

[Osem]

Yet another nasty piece of work Corbyn's hanging out with.

Marcus Papadopoulos is a notorious Assad supporter who claimed the slaughter at Aleppo didn’t happen and denied the Srebrenica genocide. As you can see from his tweets above, he holds the very worst of the views found on the extremes of the far-left. Papadopoulos says he spent yesterday evening with Jeremy Corbyn:

https://order-order.com/2017/07/11/c...nocide-denier/

The silence from the rose tinted brigade is deafening.

[Osem]

More Labour nastiness, this time amongst themselves:

https://order-order.com/2017/07/13/g...t-blairite-cs/

Nasty extremists. For someone who's supposedly a proponent of kinder and gentler politics, Corbyn doesn't seem to have much to say about all this, but then his entire career has been accompanied by this sort of thing from those around him.

[Osem]

Isn't this the sort of thing Labour likes to accuse fat cat Tories of?

Welsh government politicians, special advisers, private secretaries and press officers have billed the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds to fly around the world on more than 30 foreign junkets in the last year. Welsh Labour leader Carwyn Jones blew more than £10,000 chartering a plane for him and his private secretary to France to watch the football last summer.

https://order-order.com/2017/07/14/w...atch-football/

I wouldn't be at all surprised if these 'socialists' were forced to consume a fair bit of champagne on their taxpayer funded jollies but I'm sure the welfare of the ordinary, Tory austerity suffering, member of the public is foremost in their minds at all times...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Isn't this the sort of thing Labour likes to accuse fat cat Tories of?



https://order-order.com/2017/07/14/w...atch-football/

I wouldn't be at all surprised if these 'socialists' were forced to consume a fair bit of champagne on their taxpayer funded jollies but I'm sure the welfare of the ordinary, Tory austerity suffering, member of the public is foremost in their minds at all times...

champagne socialists

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

champagne socialists

For people who're supposedly so outraged by the excesses afforded by wealth, class etc. they certainly don't mind enjoying some of them, especially if they come at our at our expense.

Tom Watson was hobnobbing with the VIP's in the royal box at Wimbledon the other day and it must have been hell when he could have been out and about looking after the poor and needy just like all true socialists should...

[Osem]

And now Corbyn's right hand guy, another man of the people, seems to be having a few troubles:

https://www.metro.news/jeremy-corbyn...lawyer/671857/

Given his privileged background and the choices made for his own children's selective grammar school education you'd have thought he'd be embarrassed to be associated with Corbyn's Labour (and vice versa) but evidently not. Once again they fail to practice what they preach for the rest of us. How very Labour...