Climate Change - record World temp. rises in Feb.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

typical climate change denier - denial
how long can you deny that that climate change denial is the truth ,its alright you denying the denial buy you will learn that denying the denial is just denying the truth .and if the science fails you blame the newspaper.

l never said l was a climate change denier as l was just pointing out to you is that never believe most of the stories you read in newspapers.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

l never said l was a climate change denier as l was just pointing out to you is that never believe most of the stories you read in newspapers.

i don't think i said you were

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i don't think i said you were

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=120

l am whatever you say l am as you have so succinctly put.

typical climate change denier - denial
how long can you deny that that climate change denial is the truth ,its alright you denying the denial buy you will learn that denying the denial is just denying the truth .and if the science fails you blame the newspaper.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=120

l am whatever you say l am as you have so succinctly put.

i deny that

[Chrysalis]

whilst I believe temperatures are definitely on a upward projectile, I dont think its anything to do with things like pollution but more just part of the natural cycle, as the earth in its history has had many climate changes and multiple ice ages.

Indeed, millions of years ago the Earth was much warmer than it is now.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Indeed, millions of years ago the Earth was much warmer than it is now.

Was that when all the volcanos were erupting? If so I'd imagine it'd get much warmer with all that lava floating about, not to mention all the CO2 in the atmosphere

[techguyone]

It's a pity we don't have the measuring equipment that we do now, further back in time, so records would be based on like for like recording.

Just think back in the middle ages when we had a mini ice age for a couple of hundred years, we could have said 'Oh noes Man farked it up, we've not warmed up the planet enough'

Look through the geological history of the Earth, there's been times when we've been locked in ice, there's been times when the planets been a tropical jungle, what we've managed to record in the last few years wouldn't even constitute a coffee break in the life of the planet. Look instead to greedy politicians, scaremongers and the like.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Was that when all the volcanos were erupting? If so I'd imagine it'd get much warmer with all that lava floating about, not to mention all the CO2 in the atmosphere

Looking further into it,its not as simple as that, you also need to factor in plate tectonics, opening and closing parts of the world to ocean currents (this is huge btw) as far as climate change can go, also consider that over time the sun is gradually increasing in intensity & radiation (getting brighter & hotter)

Some evidence does exist however that the period of 2,000 to 3,000 million years ago was very generally colder and more glaciated than the last 500 million years. This is thought to be the result of solar radiation approximately 20% lower than today. Solar luminosity was 30% dimmer when the Earth formed 4.5 billion years ago,[9] and it is expected to increase in luminosity approximately 10% per billion years in the future.[10]
On very long time scales, the evolution of the sun is also an important factor in determining Earth's climate. According to standard solar theories, the sun will gradually have increased in brightness as a natural part of its evolution after having started with an intensity approximately 70% of its modern value. The initially low solar radiation, if combined with modern values of greenhouse gases, would not have been sufficient to allow for liquid oceans on the surface of the Earth. However, evidence of liquid water at the surface has been demonstrated as far back as 3,500 million years ago. This is known as the faint young sun paradox and is usually explained by invoking much larger greenhouse gas concentrations in Earth's early history, though such proposals are poorly constrained by existing experimental evidence.

As you can see, there's many many other factors to consider beyond what any single species can achieve since the Industrial age.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geolog...erature_record

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Exposed: How world leaders were duped into investing billions over manipulated global warming data
The Mail on Sunday can reveal a landmark paper exaggerated global warming
It was rushed through and timed to influence the Paris agreement on climate change
America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration broke its own rules
The report claimed the pause in global warming never existed, but it was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz4XnZ52tZy
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

The Mails 'whistleblower' is now having second thoughts.

Mail on Sunday attacked over 'fake global warming graph'

Article alleged US scientists had manipulated data to 'dupe' world leaders into spending billions on climate change but supposed whistleblower says there is 'not an issue of tampering with data'

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-a7569281.html

The Fail strikes again, don't think I'll be cancelling my New Scientist subscription.

[papa smurf]

[QUOTE=Mr K;35884687]The Mails 'whistleblower' is now having second thoughts.


http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-a7569281.html

the independent fake news

on another note i have the stove fully cranked up thanks to the heatwave

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Exposed: How world leaders were duped into investing billions over manipulated global warming data
The Mail on Sunday can reveal a landmark paper exaggerated global warming
It was rushed through and timed to influence the Paris agreement on climate change
America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration broke its own rules
The report claimed the pause in global warming never existed, but it was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz4XnZ52tZy
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source
The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ce-for-website

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

on another note i have the stove fully cranked up thanks to the heatwave

The "Beast from the East" is on its way. Winter is coming.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

The "Beast from the East" is on its way. Winter is coming.

Yes l can concur with one thing old bean as my brothers were in Copenhagen for 4 days and have just come back and one of their comment's to us was that it was bitterly cold over there..

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source
The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ce-for-website

Would anyone here class Wikipedia as a credible source? University's have banned it as a source.

[techguyone]

Wikipedia is trying to clean itself up. But you knew that already...