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			06-02-2017, 12:45
			
			
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			Brand new thread to discuss issues surrounding U.S President: Donald J. Trump. 
 
Prior thread became bloated and it was becoming heated at times. Old thread will be closed and archived, as it was mainly about the U.S Election 2016. 
 
It must be accepted on both sides of the argument that people have differing views. It is impossible for people to agree on stuff. 
 
Similar issues with the old thread must not occur in this thread or action may be taken. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2017, 12:50
			
			
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			https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/05/u...-strategy.html
Trump and his aides seem to be revising their approach after the first two weeks. Trump especially seems to be angry about the way the Executive Orders have been drafted. According to this he didn't know the degree to which Bannon was being appointed to the N.S.C:
 
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				Mr. Priebus bristles at the perception that he occupies a diminished perch in the West Wing pecking order compared with previous chiefs. But for the moment, Mr. Bannon remains the president’s dominant adviser, despite Mr. Trump’s anger that he was not fully briefed on details of the executive order he signed giving his chief strategist a seat on the National Security Council, a greater source of frustration to the president than the fallout from the travel ban.
			
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			06-02-2017, 16:02
			
			
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			I have seen the memes of Trump dangling on puppet strings and Bannon is the master pulling them. I have to consider that to be ludicrous because I strongly doubt Trump would share a platform of Authority with anyone. 
In other news it seems, the TV interview Fox News did over weekend with Trump, the Kremlin seems to be demanding an apology for the terms 'Killer Putin' being used by O'Reilly.
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			06-02-2017, 16:04
			
			
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			Can't see Fox News apologising to Russia, especially not for that
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2017, 16:53
			
			
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			Another Tweet from Trump, this time claiming that any negative polls about his immigration policy are fake news. Some responses are scary, comparing his approach to something that happened in Germany many years ago.. 
A lot of his Tweets seem to be dismissive of anyone or anything that gets in his way?
 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...74430800539648
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2017, 17:44
			
			
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				Another Tweet from Trump, this time claiming that any negative polls about his immigration policy are fake news. Some responses are scary, comparing his approach to something that happened in Germany many years ago.. 
A lot of his Tweets seem to be dismissive of anyone or anything that gets in his way?
 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...74430800539648 
			
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 That's his technique. Discredit every news item that goes against him as fake. His followers will agree with him and his opponents won't. But if he can sew doubt into the minds of the undecideds who swing elections then the job's done.
 
I like the fact that Trump's tweets are attributable to him and not the off-the-record anonymous press briefings that the UK favours. But I'm unhappy about his frequent deployment of "alternative facts" as portrayed by this and other tweets.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			In the old days our glorious leaders always had the 'good day to bury bad news', now there are so many other, far more effective, means by which to deflect attention, distort information, discredit critics/opponents etc. etc.  Is it any surprise then that this is happening?  When was the last time anyone heard a president, pm or whatever accept they'd got it wrong or made a huge error?  The truth is they routinely lie and/or blame and try to discredit their opponents.  The internet has just made it a whole lot easier for them to do the same thing on a much bigger scale.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			06-02-2017, 18:14
			
			
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			Not very surprised by this, I don't think it would have worked out well for Donald Trump anyway
 Donald Trump will not be allowed to address Parliament on UK state visit, Speaker says 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7565651.html
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2017, 18:20
			
			
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 that doesn't sound very democratic is his opinion the only one that counts or does it go to a vote ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-02-2017, 18:42
			
			
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				that doesn't sound very democratic is his opinion the only one that counts or does it go to a vote ? 
			
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 Well said papa. Let the people decide; it's only fair.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Well it's not like a publicity whore like Bercow would pass up an opportunity like this is it?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			It's weird when you consider Xi was invited. It never used to be that common until recent years.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2017, 22:54
			
			
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				Well it's not like a publicity whore like Bercow would pass up an opportunity like this is it? 
			
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 Indeed. He has a big mouth for a little man. He should be overruled by his boss and The President of the United States should be welcomed to address Parliament and join this  list. 
 
In fact, if Bercow finds neutrality a problem he ought to try another job.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2017, 22:58
			
			
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			The PM is not the Speaker's boss.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Indeed. He has a big mouth for a little man. He should be overruled by his boss and The President of the United States should be welcomed to address Parliament and join this  list. 
 
In fact, if Bercow finds neutrality a problem he ought to try another job.  
			
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 he seems to have chucked political neutrality out of the window -he's an embarrassment to the nation  .
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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