General : Returning from the darkside

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by passingbat

I'm surprised that you don't get the point I was making MM. Yourself. or I would never make a judgement on a bit of new kit without experiencing it or at least knowing the performance and functionality details of that kit.

I got exactly what you said , think you missed my point. OB's posts are littered with comments he's made on competing services without actually using them and generally knowing very little about them the exact things he's accusing others of doing.

Hopefully when we get some concrete details on the new box it'll be some real competition to Sky Q , likewise I hope BT bring something innovative out when they refresh their set top box offering.

It wasn't a pop at you , your posts are always fair and balanced.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by ase001

Guys, I went over to the dark side (Sky) 18months ago for a better deal and to be honest I have very little to complain about.

However, virgin are offering everything for £85, Sky Movies, Sports (Sky&BT), 200 Mb BD, all the channels except Sky Atlantic, and 2 Tivo boxes.

Ponding whether to return to Virgin?

Is anything significantly new, have the box sets improved?

If you want a sluggish boix that struggles with the basic of things plus a poor customer service and your broadband at a crawl then go ahead.
I should point out the sluggish box part is based on the current tivo which if you're getting two is most likely the one you'll get.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I got exactly what you said , think you missed my point. OB's posts are littered with comments he's made on competing services without actually using them and generally knowing very little about them the exact things he's accusing others of doing.

Hopefully when we get some concrete details on the new box it'll be some real competition to Sky Q , likewise I hope BT bring something innovative out when they refresh their set top box offering.

It wasn't a pop at you , your posts are always fair and balanced.

Ouch! I may get things a little wrong sometimes, but we are all guilty of that. I did perhaps unfairly ctiticise Sky for its slow adoption of on demand services, and spiderplant put me right on that.

However, my daughter has Sky, and I often babysit, so I do know how that works. We also have a friend whose new Talk Talk box I set up for her, and other friends who have BT. See how we all make assumptions sometimes, MM?

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

If you want a sluggish boix that struggles with the basic of things plus a poor customer service and your broadband at a crawl then go ahead.
I should point out the sluggish box part is based on the current tivo which if you're getting two is most likely the one you'll get.

To be fair, theone, this is not the experience of all VM customers.

While the Tivo has slowed over the last year for me (although it may just be that my box is on the way out), Customer Services has always been excellent in my experience and I have never experienced broadband problems. There are times when we have Amazon on through the Smart TV, two or three tablets on the go and a couple of mobiles in use, all using the wi-fi without issues.

It is certainly a good plan to wait for the V6 Tivo, hopefully available from 1 December, but your remarks about VM are more than a little unfair, I feel. But then again, you wouldn't disagree that you have personal issues with them!

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Ouch! I may get things a little wrong sometimes, but we are all guilty of that. I did perhaps unfairly ctiticise Sky for its slow adoption of on demand services, and spiderplant put me right on that.

However, my daughter has Sky, and I often babysit, so I do know how that works. We also have a friend whose new Talk Talk box I set up for her, and other friends who have BT. See how we all make assumptions sometimes

Sky+ you told us your daughter had , I was referring to your comment not so long back that the new Tivo will be better than the Sky Q system something your now pulling somebody up for who said the opposite without having all the details.

People have so many different requirements it's pretty damn hard to say conclusively which is better with all the details out anyway.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Sky+ you told us your daughter had , I was referring to your comment not so long back that the new Tivo will be better than the Sky Q system something your now pulling somebody up for who said the opposite without having all the details.

People have so many different requirements it's pretty damn hard to say conclusively which is better with all the details out anyway.

I'm afraid that has been taken out of context completely, MM. I was quoting from a comment to that effect from the Virgin Media Team. That comment may or may not be fair, but it did not emanate from me!

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Ouch! I may get things a little wrong sometimes, but we are all guilty of that. I did perhaps unfairly ctiticise Sky for its slow adoption of on demand services, and spiderplant put me right on that.

However, my daughter has Sky, and I often babysit, so I do know how that works. We also have a friend whose new Talk Talk box I set up for her, and other friends who have BT. See how we all make assumptions sometimes, MM?

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To be fair, theone, this is not the experience of all VM customers.

While the Tivo has slowed over the last year for me (although it may just be that my box is on the way out), Customer Services has always been excellent in my experience and I have never experienced broadband problems. There are times when we have Amazon on through the Smart TV, two or three tablets on the go and a couple of mobiles in use, all using the wi-fi without issues.

It is certainly a good plan to wait for the V6 Tivo, hopefully available from 1 December, but your remarks about VM are more than a little unfair, I feel. But then again, you wouldn't disagree that you have personal issues with them!

Ofcourse not mate i can only go by my own experience there are most likely hundreds of thousands if not millions of customers who have no issues at all with the tivo boxes.
It's no secret i have a grudge against vm with very good reason too.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I'm afraid that has been taken out of context completely, MM. I was quoting from a comment to that effect from the Virgin Media Team. That comment may or may not be fair, but it did not emanate from me!

So this wasn't you
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=629

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

So this wasn't you
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=629

That was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment, MM, and I made it in the knowledge that the VM Team were claiming that their new box would be better than Sky's. I think we should get this in some proportion!

[muppetman11]

Do you honestly expect them to say anything else ?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Do you honestly expect them to say anything else ?

You mean.... they lie?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You mean.... they lie?

Sometimes its called being convenient with the truth OB.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You mean.... they lie?

I basically mean what company doesn't tell you there product is better than all their competitors.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I basically mean what company doesn't tell you there product is better than all their competitors.

I'll get on to my solicitors right away...

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

the VM Team were claiming that their new box would be better than Sky's.

Who at VM told you that? Or is there a link to an official post?

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment, MM, and I made it in the knowledge that the VM Team were claiming that their new box would be better than Sky's. I think we should get this in some proportion!

Didn't think you'd be interested in new tivo after all linear will be dead in 10 years won't it?