Post-Brexit Thread

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

they where probably bullied into it that's how the EU works

Nope. The Wallonians are celebrating and say they were listened to.

Paul Magnette, the socialist leader of Wallonia that represents 3.5 million Belgians, hailed a “people’s power” victory saying the new concessions had “achieved major gains for the Walloons and Europeans”.

“Wallonia is extremely pleased that our demands have been heard,” he said. “We always fought to have treaties that enhance social standards, environmental standards, and protect public services.

“What we got is important for the Walloons and for everyone. At stake is how we regulate the world we want to live in.”

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ne...last-85zs3gzt7

[papa smurf]

EU TRADE SHAMBLES: Belgium admits CETA may NOT go ahead despite eurocrats' crowing

The crumbling agreement will only be applied provisionally and will face a make-or-break challenge to its legality under EU law as part of a deal brokered with the tiny region of Wallonia.

The shock admission was buried deep in a statement released by the Belgian government today, in which ministers in Brussels revealed they are finally ready to ratify the signing of the agreement.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...of-Justice-ECJ

[1andrew1]

UK’s creatives worry Brexit will stunt performance

"In a report detailing the concerns of film, TV, publishing, media companies and cultural institutions about Britain’s future outside the EU, the Creative Industries Federation said the sector was one of the “powerhouses” of the economy. Exports rose by 49 per cent between 2009 and 2014, it said, compared with 30 per cent for UK industries as a whole.

“Creative exports including books, film and television, from Adele to Harry Potter and Downton Abbey to Sherlock, are the UK’s calling card to the world,” the CIF said.

But its continued success was predicated on a delicate mix of factors including accessible export markets, a robust regulatory framework, the ability of highly specialised companies such as video games makers to recruit from overseas, and funding for research and regional development, much of which comes from the EU, the report said.

The federation made a plea for the government to engage with companies ahead of the triggering of Article 50 — the formal two-year exit procedure that Theresa May has said will begin by the end of March 2017."
https://www.ft.com/content/96dc9314-...4-8b8e77dd083a

[papa smurf]

Proof Britain's booming after Brexit vote: Economy drives ahead after EU Referendum

Britain’s Gross Domestic Product defied the warnings of Project Fear to rise by 0.5 per cent in the three months after the historic decision to cut ties with Brussels, according to the Office for National Statistics.

The surge exceeds expectations of many City experts and contrasts starkly with predictions of recession from George Osborne and other supporters of the UK’s membership of the EU, including former prime minister David Cameron and Bank of England governor Mark Carney.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-EU-Referendum

[denphone]

l hope they are paying you your daily commission rate PS.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

l hope they are paying you your daily commission rate PS.

love of one's country is free of charge ,i don't mind being a positive patriotic Brit .
unlike some who troll the net looking for negativity .

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

love of one's country is free of charge ,i don't mind being a positive patriotic Brit .
unlike some who troll the net looking for negativity .

One can have a love of ones country whether they are a Brexiteer or not IMO.

One also should not blindly follow either as questions rightly should be asked and hopefully the right answers are given and not just believed just because certain media outlet's says so.

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Proof Britain's booming after Brexit vote: Economy drives ahead after EU Referendum

Britain’s Gross Domestic Product defied the warnings of Project Fear to rise by 0.5 per cent in the three months after the historic decision to cut ties with Brussels, according to the Office for National Statistics.

The surge exceeds expectations of many City experts and contrasts starkly with predictions of recession from George Osborne and other supporters of the UK’s membership of the EU, including former prime minister David Cameron and Bank of England governor Mark Carney.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-EU-Referendum

Or growth cut by a third depending on how you define the water in the cup

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

Or growth cut by a third depending on how you define the water in the cup

Post #2244 and link. Look deeper into the figures.

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Post #2244 and link. Look deeper into the figures.

£13.50 a week subscription, no chance but thanks

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

£13.50 a week subscription, no chance but thanks

Funny, I got to the page directly from a Google search and was able to look at all the underlying data and trends and go to other linked pages but the link shows a paywall Can't be a very good one though.

Anyway even 0.5% growth is far better than project fear's 1% contraction.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Funny, I got to the page directly from a Google search and was able to look at all the underlying data and trends and go to other linked pages but the link shows a paywall Can't be a very good one though.

Anyway even 0.5% growth is far better than project fear's 1% contraction.

Yes and it wasn't just the numbers was it, it was the deliberate, calculated use of the most alarmist rhetoric like:

George Osborne says he will have to slash public spending and increase taxes in an emergency Budget to tackle a £30bn "black hole" if the UK votes to leave the European Union.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36534192

Anyway, the future of Brexit's looking even more on the up as May unveils her secret weapon to get the job done:

The UK should keep its "options open" over Brexit, Tony Blair has said, adding that he does not rule out another referendum on the subject.
The former prime minister told BBC Radio 4's Today programme it was vital to study the "real-life implications".
Mr Blair said he respected the verdict of June's referendum, but recommended looking again at Brexit when "we have a clear sense of where we're going".
In June's referendum, 51.9% of voters opted in favour of leaving the EU.
The government has promised to invoke Article 50 - setting formal talks with the EU in motion - by the end of March next year.
'Substantial gains?'
But Mr Blair told Today that he believed the Brexit vote was a "catastrophe" and argued that it was important that the views of the "16 million" people who had backed remaining in the EU should not be ignored.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37797127

Odd how now he's out of office he's keen that the voices of those on the losing side 'must not be ignored'. I don't recall that being his policy during his tenure at no 10 especially when he backtracked on his referendum promise. In fact he didn't even listen to the people who did vote for him most if the time.

It says great deal about Blair's mindset and grossly inflated ego that he still believes ordinary people will still listen to what he has to say on matters such as this.

[heero_yuy]

Seeing as project fears predictions are unravelling faster than a ball of wool in a kittens claws another referendum would have a much bigger majority for Brexit IMHO.

I turned the radio off this morning because that liar has nothing worth contributing. He should be in jail, not being indulged by the anti-Brexit BBC.

We'll see what happens to the economy but up until September anyway we were in a holding pattern. At the moment we're still in the EU, we can still trade easily across Europe. Pretending Brexit has already happened and it's now fine is delusional. We'll see the real impact once we know what is actually going to happen to various industries.

As for what people think now then let's wait and see what people think when the drop in sterling filters though to prices. Inflation is already rising. Sterling is down 20% now. That's a massive hit to anyone who imports as part of their business and for consumer goods.

Originally Posted by Damien

We'll see what happens to the economy but up until September anyway we were in a holding pattern. At the moment we're still in the EU, we can still trade easily across Europe. Pretending Brexit has already happened and it's now fine is delusional. We'll see the real impact once we know what is actually going to happen to various industries.

As for what people think now then let's wait and see what people think when the drop in sterling filters though to prices. Inflation is already rising. Sterling is down 20% now. That's a massive hit to anyone who imports as part of their business and for consumer goods.

It's also a massive boost to anyone who exports, or manufactures for uk consumption against competition from cheap imports.

Currency devaluation is never a one-sided equation, especially not when the value of the currency has been too high for too long.