Obese people and smokers to be refused surgery (now in review) - Page 4

djfunkdup · 03-09-2016, 20:01

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Originally Posted by martyh

I'm not sure that BMI is that effective at measuring obesity ,quite a few sports people would be classed as obese according to their BMI.

Yip that is correct

03-09-2016, 20:05

This type of initiative by the NHS runs along the lines of not giving new liver, kidney ,hearts and lungs to alcoholics and drug addicts,the limited resources are better used elswhere rather than waste them on people who will not change their lifestyle

03-09-2016, 20:11

There is a away of measuring bmi using height and waist size that is a very good indicator of body fat.

If you have a small waist/belly and are heavier than average for your height it's probably muscle. If you have a large waist/belly and are heavier than average for your height you're probably fat.

Of course physical activity and diet is also a concern when measuring bmi!

03-09-2016, 20:30

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Originally Posted by S_james

There is a away of measuring bmi using height and waist size that is a very good indicator of body fat.

If you have a small waist/belly and are heavier than average for your height it's probably muscle. If you have a large waist/belly and are heavier than average for your height you're probably fat.

Of course physical activity and diet is also a concern when measuring bmi!

generally speaking simply looking at the person and talking about lifestyle is the best indicator imo

TheDaddy · 03-09-2016, 20:32

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Originally Posted by S_james

I work a lot, I can find the time to go for walks, bike rides everyday.

Can you define a lot because I've done between 300 and 330 hours a month since a colleague and friend died in April and I'm fit for nothing at the end of each day let alone a bike ride

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Where have I lied?

I'd be very very very careful about what you post next.

i'm quite happy to provide proof of what I've said to one of the moderators who can verify to you if required.

You my friend are guilty of libel.

Calm down, the obvious answer is how can anyone on benefits with no children afford to smoke and be obese

techguyone · 03-09-2016, 20:35

Get used to the NHS doing this, as the pot gets less and more people use it, something's going to give like it or not.

Not saying I agree with it, but it is basic maths isn't it.

03-09-2016, 20:37

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Can you define a lot because I've done between 300 and 330 hours a month since a colleague and friend died in April and I'm fit for nothing at the end of each day let alone a bike ride

Calm down, the obvious answer is how can anyone on benefits with no children afford to smoke and be obese

What's the relevance of your friend/colleague dying? Or do you think you're the only person to have lost a friend/colleague/loved one so it should be mentioned when talking about walking 2 miles? An you working 11 hours a day does not fit your posting history!!

03-09-2016, 20:49

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Originally Posted by S_james

What's the relevance of your friend/colleague dying? Or do you think you're the only person to have lost a friend/colleague/loved one so it should be mentioned when talking about walking 2 miles? An you working 11 hours a day does not fit your posting history!!

i think his point is that going out for runs and walks after work is very much dependant on your job and family life,it's not as simple as you make out

TheDaddy · 03-09-2016, 20:58

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Originally Posted by S_james

What's the relevance of your friend/colleague dying? Or do you think you're the only person to have lost a friend/colleague/loved one so it should be mentioned when talking about walking 2 miles? An you working 11 hours a day does not fit your posting history!!

Do you deliberately misinterprete people's posts, the relevance is I'm covering the dead man's work and it fits entirely with my posting history if I post from work, as I am now

03-09-2016, 21:02

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Originally Posted by martyh

i think his point is that going out for runs and walks after work is very much dependant on your job and family life,it's not as simple as you make out

It is as simple as I make out,

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Do you deliberately misinterprete people's posts, the relevance is I'm covering the dead man's work and it fits entirely with my posting history if I post from work, as I am now

Why are you working 77hours plus a week? What is the name of the company that employs you? You lose a worker for whatever reason you replace them, why hasn't your company sought the services of a temp? What kind of company increases demand on a colleague at a time of loss? This does not make sense.

As far as I'm aware we do not live in Corbyns Britian , we live in a free market!

TheDaddy · 03-09-2016, 21:13

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Originally Posted by S_james

It is as simple as I make out,

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Why are you working 77hours plus a week? What is the name of the company that employs you? You lose a worker for whatever reason you replace them, why hasn't your company sought the services of a temp? What kind of company increases demand on a colleague at a time of loss? This does not make sense.

As far as I'm aware we do not live in Corbyns Britian , we live in a free market!

Because a temp can't do my job, they lack the skills and the company don't force me to do anything I'm not happy to do for between 12 and 14 hours a day, so it's not as simple as you make it.

03-09-2016, 21:17

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Because a temp can't do my job, they lack the skills and the company don't force me to do anything I'm not happy to do for between 12 and 14 hours a day, so it's not as simple as you make it.

So no temp in the country can do your job? Lolol. Some temps have 20+ years experience in there fields but choose to temp because they've made enough money to no longer need to work regular hours.

03-09-2016, 21:21

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Originally Posted by S_james

It is as simple as I make out,[COLOR="Silver"]

Really ?? i work a very physically demanding job in construction ,i am self employed,i suffer from severe Rheumatoid Arthritis and when i finish work i do not have the strength left to go out running ,i am not a smoker and nor am i obese or overweight in any way .It really isn't as simple as you are making out

03-09-2016, 21:22

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Originally Posted by martyh

Really ?? i work a very physically demanding job in construction ,i am self employed,i suffer from severe Rheumatoid Arthritis and when i finish work i do not have the strength left to go out running ,i am not a smoker and nor am i obese or overweight in any way .It really isn't as simple as you are making out

So you get plenty of physical excerise at work? Well one enjoy your evening relaxing time, you deserve it!

TheDaddy · 03-09-2016, 21:24

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Originally Posted by S_james

So no temp in the country can do your job? Lolol. Some temps have 20+ years experience in there fields but choose to temp because they've made enough money to no longer need to work regular hours.

Lol lol lol there isn't even an agency that covers my job and no one will have made enough money out of it to retire let alone temp. I appreciate your concern about my terms and conditions but don't let it bother you, someone will turn up sooner or later.