General : Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2

[Bananaman_007]

Why would they agree a deal for Pop Movies4Men and Movie Mix but none of the other missing Sony channels?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007

Why would they agree a deal for Pop Movies4Men and Movie Mix but none of the other missing Sony channels?

Doesn't make sense does it.

[Ddonald2016]

Originally Posted by vincerooney

Hahaha babe station ?! Ding dong.

Oh yeah finally about time we get babestation, it's more funny than anything

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes they could. There is a message system on the Tivo already. I think I've only ever had one message on it!

This is the one that I'm talking about, but it's not being used properly by the looks of it.

I used to get a message every day when I got my TiVo last March; they were automated messages advertising the various help videos.

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007

Why would they agree a deal for Pop Movies4Men and Movie Mix but none of the other missing Sony channels?

Many of the new channel placeholders are for FTA channels already available on Freeview. Remember that VM are now extending their network into new areas, and probably want to sell TV services to new customers. It makes sense to match the lower TV packages to what is available on Freeview. I imagine that it would be difficult to sell the packages to new customers when they discover that their favourite Freeview channels are missing.

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

Oh yeah finally about time we get babestation, it's more funny than anything

It wouldn't make that much sense to VM, there's not much money to be made from adding FTA channels promoting premium rate "chatlines". Although adding addition adult subscription channels would bring in subscription revenue. It's all just speculation at the moment.

[Ddonald2016]

Originally Posted by jj20x

Many of the new channel placeholders are for FTA channels already available on Freeview. Remember that VM are now extending their network into new areas, and probably want to sell TV services to new customers. It makes sense to match the lower TV packages to what is available on Freeview. I imagine that it would be difficult to sell the packages to new customers when they discover that their favourite Freeview channels are missing.

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It wouldn't make that much sense to VM, there's not much money to be made from adding FTA channels promoting premium rate "chatlines". Although adding addition adult subscription channels would bring in subscription revenue. It's all just speculation at the moment.

I think sky gets a percentage of all calls for having the channels I heard

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by jj20x

Have you seen Movie Mix? It's called Movie Mix for a reason, it has movies and other content. It doesn't really belong in the Movie EPG genre.

Yes - you can now get Freeview on your TV Set.

But Movie Mix will be on some may call "an Virgin Media UK only channel" - it only on Freeview right now.

Movie Mix aka More than Movies was axe from Sky early this year.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

But Movie Mix will be on some may call "an Virgin Media UK only channel" - it only on Freeview right now.

How can Movie Mix be a VM-only channel if it is on Freeview too? Is it leaving Freeview then?

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by jj20x

I doubt that anyone would want you to post them. You are still being very vague about what these "photos" show, most of the channels which actually have video/audio streams are encrypted so any "photo" wouldn't show very much. If someone is showing you photos of unencrypted feeds taken at the central headend, that is very nice but meaningless until the feeds hit the national network.

As of late July Fox News Channel was showing the now and network info. All the rest have "Channel Coming Soon."

Been told today that the NDTV Channels are encrypted.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

How can Movie Mix be a VM-only channel if it is on Freeview too? Is it leaving Freeview then?

Some may say that due to the channel not being on Sky. (I am not saying that).

[vincerooney]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

We have seen along the lines of your post over the weekend.

But as of late July Fox News Channel was showing the now and network info. All the rest have "Channel Coming Soon."

Been told today that the NDTV Channels are encrypted.

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Some may say that due to the channel not being on Sky. (I am not saying that).

So Fox News may definitely be coming?

Fox News and babe station. Which has the more tits on it?

What a carnival!

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by jj20x

It wouldn't make that much sense to VM, there's not much money to be made from adding FTA channels promoting premium rate "chatlines". Although adding addition adult subscription channels would bring in subscription revenue. It's all just speculation at the moment.

You are maybe right it just speculation at the moment.

Are Virgin Media UK missing any "adult subscription channels"?

Don't the Phone in Adult channels goes under Tellyshopping?

If so the say channel will need to pay Virgin Media UK to get on network.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

So Fox News may definitely be coming?

Still no Video testing.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Yes - you can now get Freeview on your TV Set.

But Movie Mix will be on some may call "an Virgin Media UK only channel" - it only on Freeview right now.

Movie Mix aka More than Movies was axe from Sky early this year.

It used to be on sky and freesat under more>movies name.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jj20x

Have you seen Movie Mix? It's called Movie Mix for a reason, it has movies and other content. It doesn't really belong in the Movie EPG genre.

I'm not sure where you get that from, jj. It is, in fact, all films and film news. There's nothing else in the schedules for this channel.

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

I think sky gets a percentage of all calls for having the channels I heard

I doubt that as they are FTA. Sky will get the standard fee for including the channels on their EPG.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

Yes - you can now get Freeview on your TV Set.

But Movie Mix will be on some may call "an Virgin Media UK only channel" - it only on Freeview right now.

Movie Mix aka More than Movies was axe from Sky early this year.

I think m>m was replaced on Sky by True Crime, which is also on Freeview local multiplexes together with Kix. Interesting that those channels weren't included in the last batch of placeholders on VM.

As far as Movie Mix is concerned, I was saying that it is more mix than movies.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

As of late July Fox News Channel was showing the now and network info. All the rest have "Channel Coming Soon."

Been told today that the NDTV Channels are encrypted.

Yes, the NDTV streams are encrypted.

There's probably more need to verify the EPG details for a channel such as Fox News than additional channels from existing providers such as Sony & C5.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

You are maybe right it just speculation at the moment.

Are Virgin Media UK missing any "adult subscription channels"?

Don't the Phone in Adult channels goes under Tellyshopping?

If so the say channel will need to pay Virgin Media UK to get on network.[COLOR="Silver"]

There's quite a few additional adult subscription channels, largely of the pay per night variety. It used to be easy to check these when the Wildsat website was active. Since Wildsat closed it's not so easy to get a complete list, trawling through Sky listings on Lyngsat should provide the details but these channels tend to rebrand more often than Sky Movies, so not so easy to search without the current channel names.

Update: Check the encrypted channels in the 900's on Lyngsat's listing of Sky channels by channel number: http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/Sky-UK_chno.html

Babestation and its clones are funded from premium rate calls but wouldn't be appropriate for the shopping genre.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I'm not sure where you get that from, jj. It is, in fact, all films and film news. There's nothing else in the schedules for this channel.

A mix of low budget movies, made for tv movies and the likes of Highway To Heaven, which certainly isn't a movie. Not really the sort of content I'd expect to find on the movie genre. General entertainment? ...perhaps.

(It was included in the Entertainment genre when it was carried on Sky.)

[RichardCoulter]

I did some research about three years ago when I briefly considered becoming involved in the business of telephone call charge funded channels (not soft porn).

The business model is that the girl, clairvoyant etc are effectively self employed and only earn a cut of the phone calls, so it's in their interest to take as many calls as possible and keep them on the line for as long as possible.

Many pay a fee to the company too in return for being given the chance to earn some money, so they have to cover this before they start to earn a profit.

Sometimes a cut is taken by their telephone service provider too in return for the facilities that they provide, unless the equipment is leased or bought outright.

The usual costs of insurance, premises, EPG fees, uplink costs, electricity, Ofcom licenses, business rates, PPL & PRS fees for the music played etc etc all have to be met from this income stream as well (I think some will show adverts too to raise a little additional revenue).

jj20x is correct in that Sky only receive the normal EPG fee and any Platform Contribution Charge payable.

These types of channels would also have to pay VM for the privilege of going onto a private closed system, so you can see why, with all the associated costs having to be already met, there is less of them on cable.