Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scared"

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Have a look at how it can corrupt politics, see Tower Hamlets. We should all give a toss else we risk having democracy used against us by those who hate it in order to subjugate it.

Its already being corrupted and we're turning a blind eye to it

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.t...android-h3g-gb

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Its already being corrupted and we're turning a blind eye to it

And that's why we deserve everything that's coming to us. and everything we get.

The British are dumb. just ask a foreigner.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Its already being corrupted and we're turning a blind eye to it

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.t...android-h3g-gb

Which report was it? The writer didn't say.Apologies it's Eric Pickles report for the government..Found it on the BBC eventually..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37055521

Eric Pickles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ectoral-fraud/

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[nomadking]

What's new about it?

Ten years on from the postal vote fraud scandal which saw Birmingham’s political system likened to a ‘banana republic’ an MP says he is sure there is still election fraud today. The city council election on June 10, 2004 was perhaps the darkest day in Birmingham’s political history as it marred by vote rigging on an industrial scale which left trust in the electoral system shattered.
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“You can go from polling station to polling station, an individual could vote 20 times like this. I am checking details of ten people we know who never vote but who are down as having voted.” He argues that only by demanding a photo identification, as is required in Northern Ireland, that this problem could be eliminated.
He also believes there is some postal vote fraud, and during the last election campaign published a photo on his website of a single post box stuffed with ballots.
Of the six Labour councillors sacked in 2005, five, Shah Jahan, Shafaq Ahmed, Ayaz Khan, Mohammed Nazrul Islam and Mohammed Amin Kazi, have never returned to front line politics after serving their suspensions.

[Osem]

This is nothing new and it's a big part of the reason we're find ourselves in the situation we are with various groups who've become used to having a blind eye turned towards their unacceptable behaviour. Having been allowed to get away with if for so long, it's not really a big surprise when it turns out that full advantage has been taken of the situation and tackling the legacy of such a flawed 'policy' is going to be very tough.

We have been so busy being open, tolerant and multi cultural in the last couple of decades we've allowed an enemy to not just enter the country but setup strongholds and support mechanisms. This is all going to get very unpleasant soon people have had enough and how can we lecture anyone about britishness when we're so reluctant to demonstrate it lest we be called racists. The english flag has been hijacked by the far right and nothing was really done about it our society and culture is so worried about how others may view it we rarely celebrate it.

At this point I'm not sure it has a peaceful solution as we've let things go too far in too many area's. Some friends in london talk about groups of muslim men in certain parts of our capital city patrolling harassing and intimidating people who are doing anything they view as offensive to islam and there are a growing amount of videos popping up showing it as well. For most of my life I've defended different cultures and it saddens me to see the tolerance and open mindedness of the UK being abused and i now believe we are heading down a road that ends with violence. I'd wish i could say it won't happen in my lifetime but i don't want my kids living in that sort of society and i honestly don't think it's too far into the future.

[TheDaddy]

What particular areas are they patrolling? I'll keep an eye out for them an harass them if you can narrow it down a bit.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

We have been so busy being open, tolerant and multi cultural in the last couple of decades we've allowed an enemy to not just enter the country but setup strongholds and support mechanisms. This is all going to get very unpleasant soon people have had enough and how can we lecture anyone about britishness when we're so reluctant to demonstrate it lest we be called racists. The english flag has been hijacked by the far right and nothing was really done about it our society and culture is so worried about how others may view it we rarely celebrate it.

At this point I'm not sure it has a peaceful solution as we've let things go too far in too many area's. Some friends in london talk about groups of muslim men in certain parts of our capital city patrolling harassing and intimidating people who are doing anything they view as offensive to islam and there are a growing amount of videos popping up showing it as well. For most of my life I've defended different cultures and it saddens me to see the tolerance and open mindedness of the UK being abused and i now believe we are heading down a road that ends with violence. I'd wish i could say it won't happen in my lifetime but i don't want my kids living in that sort of society and i honestly don't think it's too far into the future.

Sadly we have allowed our tolerance to be used against us and offered rights without responsibilities. We clearly have a big problem festering away in this country and continuing to give/allow refuge to people who clearly don't respect our values is only adding to it.

Just google "muslim patrols in london" Daddy seems to be east london area mainly and that's where two of my friends live so I'll take their word for it as i never get to london anymore. I will admit to being surprised at that search actually yielding results and it was one of my friends that told me to use it. This is not an islamic state and no muslim has the right to patrol anywhere other then their own front and back garden and the fact some think that not only they have the right but the freedom to do it is disturbing.

Back in the early-mid eighties i honestly thought opposing the national front and standing up for the ethnic communities was going to be the end of the violent end of this and yes i was naive but i was young and i guess it was more hope then anything else. To be returning and maybe surpassing those times in the future is depressing but unlike then i can't defend those communities anymore.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Just google "muslim patrols in london" Daddy seems to be east london area mainly and that's where two of my friends live so I'll take their word for it as i never get to london anymore. I will admit to being surprised at that search actually yielding results and it was one of my friends that told me to use it. This is not an islamic state and no muslim has the right to patrol anywhere other then their own front and back garden and the fact some think that not only they have the right but the freedom to do it is disturbing.

Back in the early-mid eighties i honestly thought opposing the national front and standing up for the ethnic communities was going to be the end of the violent end of this and yes i was naive but i was young and i guess it was more hope then anything else. To be returning and maybe surpassing those times in the future is depressing but unlike then i can't defend those communities anymore.

That's odd, I live in East london and drive round large parts of it pretty much all night, every night and I've never seen any of these patrols, I saw a sticker on a lamp post once in Ilford I think it was proclaiming such but I've never seen drunks or scantily clad women being berated for their behaviour. That's not to say it's never happened just that it might be being exaggerated a bit.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

That's odd, I live in East london and drive round large parts of it pretty much all night, every night and I've never seen any of these patrols, I saw a sticker on a lamp post once in Ilford I think it was proclaiming such but I've never seen drunks or scantily clad women being berated for their behaviour. That's not to say it's never happened just that it might be being exaggerated a bit.

People were jailed so it was a problem .The group called "Muslim Patrol " have since been locked up or ,as in one case "seen the error of his ways"

I don't think it ever got to the stage that people where scared to walk the streets though it mostly seemed to be followers of Anjem Choudary making a nuisance of themselves



http://news.sky.com/story/ex-muslim-...ideos-10341361

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/m...london-streets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_patrols

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-London.html

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

People were jailed so it was a problem .The group called "Muslim Patrol " have since been locked up or ,as in one case "seen the error of his ways"

I don't think it ever got to the stage that people where scared to walk the streets though it mostly seemed to be followers of Anjem Choudary making a nuisance of themselves



http://news.sky.com/story/ex-muslim-...ideos-10341361

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/m...london-streets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_patrols

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-London.html

A few stupid boys bothering women and drunks, their crimes and sentences seem to have garnered headlines more appropriate for more heinous crimes to so I think I'll stand by my origional thoughts that it was an exaggerated threat.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

A few stupid boys bothering women and drunks, their crimes and sentences seem to have garnered headlines more appropriate for more heinous crimes to so I think I'll stand by my origional thoughts that it was an exaggerated threat.

Oh i agree ,it was built up by the likes of the Mail ,was never a serious threat

Exaggerated or not that any of them think they can do that in the UK demonstrates the problem it is not acceptable for a single muslim to go onto our streets and conduct "patrols" and it is ongoing. Most really bad thing's start small and are not seen by many until it becomes a much bigger problem and starts affecting greater numbers this is not an islamic state and i hope it never will be and it's time to start coming down very hard on the element that thinks doing anything other then peacefully following their faith is acceptable.